I prefer to look at each Star Trek as a seperate show. Obviously they arent, they take place in the same galaxy and even share some characters, but each show has such a different tone that I just regard them all as seperate. I guess every new Star Trek is like a new Doctor stepping out of the Tardis. They might be similiar, essentially the same thing, but they all have very seperate personalities. For this reason, continuity errors never really bother me. The Borg in TNG and the Borg in VOY are different. The Klingons in TOS are different from the Klingons in TNG which are different from the Klingons in DS9 which are different from the Klingons in VOY. Some incarnations (the Voyager ones) arent as good as the others, but I dont feel the need to compare them as actual cultures.
What is THE Worst continuity error in Trek history..?!
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The biggest one by far has to be the change in the Klingon appearance. They went from a human-like race to an almost animal one. The lame attempt to explain the physical change in Enterprise didn't help either. DS9 made explaining that an impossibility with Kor, Kang and Koloth reappearing in that one episode. As Moore said, there is no possible way to explain that except to say that it was a design change.
I remember reading that in Treklit--but was that difference ever established as what made the two of them different, on the show?
No, they never did say it outright. But in TNG the only assimilated person ever seen was Locutus, with no mention of them ever doing this to anyone else (apparently, they would just take the tech of anyone encountered and kill the people) and the Borg babies were first seen in TNG. No mention is ever made by the crew of figuring out who Hugh used to be, implying they don't think he was ever assimilated like Picard.
The idea of the Borg assimilating everyone they capture was first invented in "First Contact" and then VOY had to continue that practice. But it's safe to say they do both: Grow their own babies and then assimilate them as well as assimilate people. Seven SAYS they only assimilate, but she doesn't know everything, otherwise Picard would know about other assimilated people too.
The idea of the Borg assimilating everyone they capture was first invented in "First Contact" and then VOY had to continue that practice. But it's safe to say they do both: Grow their own babies and then assimilate them as well as assimilate people. Seven SAYS they only assimilate, but she doesn't know everything, otherwise Picard would know about other assimilated people too.
The thing that bugs me the most in Star Trek is the continuity errors revolving around breaking into Warp 10.
Its really one of the hardest continuity issues to explain away.
Its really one of the hardest continuity issues to explain away.
The "first look" at a "new species", like the Ferengi-only to find out that centuries earlier humans had extended contact with them.
And that they seemed to be well known throughout the Alpha Quadrant by the time of DS9.
And that they seemed to be well known throughout the Alpha Quadrant by the time of DS9.
Really? How does it imply specifically what you say, much less anything? How do you know he was not assimilated at an age even younger than that of Seven?
Really? I'm having trouble finding dialog in First Contact that says this is what the Borg do. Can you direct me to the parts where they say this?
On the other hand, what do you make of these lines from The Best of Both Worlds Part II:
Doesn't this TNG episode lay it out pretty clearly that the Borg can be expected to assimilate all technology, culture, and people in the Alpha Quadrant?
I don't understand what you're saying.
I'm saying that BOBW had them talk to themselves about how the Borg wanting to assimilate lifeforms was a new thing that didn't match up with their past goals. But later on it's made more clear that they've been assimilating species for a long time, and you'd think an actual Borg attack survivor like Guinan would have just told them straight that this is how the Borg operate.
I can excuse Q not mentioning it, since he's a dick.
I can excuse Q not mentioning it, since he's a dick.
The only issue I see here is that the word "assimilate" does not appear in the episode Q Who? I don't recall hearing dialog in Q Who? about exactly how the Borg destroyed civilizations. It was just kind of vague, threatening, and relentless, and it involved the "consumption of technology".
In any case, "assimilation" was introduced TBOBW2, not First Contact, and except in the details of how it was done, it hasn't really been altered in any major way since then, as far as I can recall right now.
In any case, "assimilation" was introduced TBOBW2, not First Contact, and except in the details of how it was done, it hasn't really been altered in any major way since then, as far as I can recall right now.
What I meant was that TBOBW2 was the first time the word was used on screen in connection with the Borg. The concept of lifting bases off planets goes back to The Neutral Zone. There is no major continuity problem here, that I can see.
Agreed JB2005. The details in Q Who? are fuzzy enough that anything is possible.
Extended? Just how long was that? A few hours? I'm not sure all the time in "Acquisition" and "Little Green Men" add up to extended contact. Heck, Picard met them but did not see them in "The Battle" years before the events of "The Last Outpost", who can really say how often the member race of the UFP have encountered the Ferengi.
That's actually the way I've always viewed that situation. Doesn't Hoshi say something like "you don't want to know" when translating the klingons commenting to Archer at the end of Broken Bow? That and I don't expect Klingons respected Vulcans much at the time. It all fit together well in my mind.
As far as the topic, I feel the biggest continuity errors are Voyager's number of torpedo's, shuttles, and magical ability to repair major damage while being stranded away from the Federation.
Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.
I have to admit, Enterprise took some precautions in order to try to avoid a continuity conflict.
They might have slipped in some places;
If Starfleet asked around they could have found out more-pictures, beliefs, ideals, etc.
By the time of DS9 the Ferengi were generally well known and had reputations.
It's like the show took a big leap from them being unseen to being popular.
The Ferengi MUST have interacted with other aliens, many who were basically just "forehead aliens"-they looked too similar to humans.
Yet in The Last Outpost, the Ferengi seemed shocked by the appearance of humans.
And then there's the females wearing no clothes part. After all the interactions with other aliens, they are shocked that human females wear clothes?
They made the same continuity mistake with the Borg too.
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