Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.
But that speed probably doesn't represent the top end for a Constitution refit.
Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.
This entire thread has been pretty interesting to me. I must confess that most of these never even occurred to me.
Of course now I just feel stupid.
Nothing in TMP establishes exactly how fast warp speeds really are, nor does it establish where Vulcan is in relation to Earth. The TOS movies do seem to imply that warp drive is pretty damn fast, though, since the Enterprise is able to fly from Rurapenthe to to Khitomer in less than a day.The superfast Earth-to-Vulcan ride in XI.
So you wanted them to show the entire several hour journey?
I think we're supposed to assume that it had been several hours before Chekov's message was delivered
Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.
The superfast Earth-to-Vulcan ride in XI.
So you wanted them to show the entire several hour journey?
I think we're supposed to assume that it had been several hours before Chekov's message was delivered
Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.
So you wanted them to show the entire several hour journey?
I think we're supposed to assume that it had been several hours before Chekov's message was delivered
Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.
Didn't Kirk order warp one immediately after Spock declines in TMP? In STXI, Pike explicitly orders maximum warp.
That's where I got the strange idea that Full Impulse equals the speed of light.Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.
Didn't Kirk order warp one immediately after Spock declines in TMP? In STXI, Pike explicitly orders maximum warp.
Aye, Sir. Full Impulse.
But atleast enterprise addressed it!The biggest one by far has to be the change in the Klingon appearance. They went from a human-like race to an almost animal one. The lame attempt to explain the physical change in Enterprise didn't help either. DS9 made explaining that an impossibility with Kor, Kang and Koloth reappearing in that one episode. As Moore said, there is no possible way to explain that except to say that it was a design change.
I would say the addition to the V ridges on Romulans by TNG has to rank up there.
The Ferengi are slavers. The Bolian is probably property, captured on a raid similar to the one seen on Enterprise.It doesn't mean the Ferengi and the Bolians know each other in an official capacity.Extended? Just how long was that? A few hours? I'm not sure all the time in "Acquisition" and "Little Green Men" add up to extended contact. Heck, Picard met them but did not see them in "The Battle" years before the events of "The Last Outpost", who can really say how often the member race of the UFP have encountered the Ferengi.The "first look" at a "new species", like the Ferengi-only to find out that centuries earlier humans had extended contact with them.
And that they seemed to be well known throughout the Alpha Quadrant by the time of DS9.
I have to admit, Enterprise took some precautions in order to try to avoid a continuity conflict.
They might have slipped in some places;
Ferengi: I know a Bolian Female.....I could introduce you
If Starfleet asked around they could have found out more-pictures, beliefs, ideals, etc.
The Last Outpost said:Captain's log, stardate 41386.4. We are in pursuit of a starship of Ferengi design
The Last Outpost said:RIKER: Which reports do not conflict?
DATA: That the Ferengi are, well, the best description may be traders.
PICARD: What kind of traders?
DATA: A comparison modern scholars have drawn from Earth history likens the Ferengi to the ocean-going Yankee traders of eighteenth and nineteenth century America, sir.
RIKER: From the history of my forebears. Yankee traders.
DATA: Who in this case sail the galaxy in search of mercantile and territorial opportunity
In Cardassian space, where there was little UFP contact at first. I would say that once the cat was out of the bag the Ferengi were quite aggresive in establishing themselves in UFP and Klingon space. Sort of like StarbucksBy the time of DS9 the Ferengi were generally well known and had reputations.
It's like the show took a big leap from them being unseen to being popular.
The Ferengi MUST have interacted with other aliens, many who were basically just "forehead aliens"-they looked too similar to humans.
Yet in The Last Outpost, the Ferengi seemed shocked by the appearance of humans.
And then there's the females wearing no clothes part. After all the interactions with other aliens, they are shocked that human females wear clothes?
The last Outpost said:TARR [OC]: Your complete message not received, Enterprise, but visual communication is against our custom.
PICARD: And it is against Starfleet orders to accept a surrender otherwise. Do you withdraw your surrender?
TARR [OC]: You give us no choice, Enterprise. May we have a visual on you as well?
PICARD: Agreed, DaiMon Tarr. You should be able to view us now. Are we on your screen?
(The face of a humanoid with enormous ears fills the viewscreen. He even has crooked pointed teeth)
TARR [on viewscreen]: Yes. The ugliness of the human was not an exaggeration. I do not know how your twisted alien culture has paralysed our vessel, but I concede your Enterprise is superior. We will return your worthless T9 device and we offer the life of our second officers as required by the Ferengi code.
What "mistake' would that be? The Borg had already been encountered long before "Q Who". Voyager esablished that. And of course there's First ContactThey made the same continuity mistake with the Borg too.
I'm saying that BOBW had them talk to themselves about how the Borg wanting to assimilate lifeforms was a new thing that didn't match up with their past goals.
Q explicitly told Picard in "Q Who" that the Borg weren't interested in the crew, but in the ship and technology.
I would say the addition to the V ridges on Romulans by TNG has to rank up there.
^^^Indeed! Strange that that one has received significantly less attention [than the Klingons].
We can disregard Q's exact words because...well it's Q, I wouldn't put it past him to embellish things a bit.
This entire thread has been pretty interesting to me. I must confess that most of these never even occurred to me.
Of course now I just feel stupid.
Now you can get a job at Paramount! Congratulations!
The superfast Earth-to-Vulcan ride in XI.
So you wanted them to show the entire several hour journey?
I think we're supposed to assume that it had been several hours before Chekov's message was delivered
I must have shown it a hundred times already. The way the scene is edited, there can't be a timespan in between. Sulu reports they have reached maximum warp, and in the very same scene, Chekov makes the announcement. Unless the acceleration to maximum warp takes several hours, the journey to Vulcan as seen in this movie takes 5 minutes. One of several cases in the movie where the writer's/director's intention wasn't properly executed. We are supposed to assume that it takes several hours (that's the intention), but the editing doesn't support this (that's the execution).
Had Sulu reported maximum warp before they cut to McCoy and Kirk walking into sickbay, or had they removed Sulu's report altogether, then it would have been right.
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