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What is THE Worst continuity error in Trek history..?!

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Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.

But that speed probably doesn't represent the top end for a Constitution refit.
 
This entire thread has been pretty interesting to me. I must confess that most of these never even occurred to me.

Of course now I just feel stupid.
 
The superfast Earth-to-Vulcan ride in XI.

So you wanted them to show the entire several hour journey?

I think we're supposed to assume that it had been several hours before Chekov's message was delivered

Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.
Nothing in TMP establishes exactly how fast warp speeds really are, nor does it establish where Vulcan is in relation to Earth. The TOS movies do seem to imply that warp drive is pretty damn fast, though, since the Enterprise is able to fly from Rurapenthe to to Khitomer in less than a day.

Come to think of it, in all six movies I don't think we ever saw a trip between any two points requiring more than half a day's travel at warp no matter where they were going, even in TFF where the voyage to the center of the galaxy apparently takes a couple of hours tops. The single exception is V'ger who takes about two days to get from the Klingon border to Earth and Enterprise intercepts it halfway there.
 
The superfast Earth-to-Vulcan ride in XI.

So you wanted them to show the entire several hour journey?

I think we're supposed to assume that it had been several hours before Chekov's message was delivered

Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.

Didn't Kirk order warp one immediately after Spock declines in TMP? In STXI, Pike explicitly orders maximum warp.
 
So you wanted them to show the entire several hour journey?

I think we're supposed to assume that it had been several hours before Chekov's message was delivered

Baring massive changes to warp velocities, Vulcan is four days from Earth via the then cutting edge Connie refit in the original 2270 timeline.

Didn't Kirk order warp one immediately after Spock declines in TMP? In STXI, Pike explicitly orders maximum warp.

Aye, Sir. Full Impulse.
 
The biggest one by far has to be the change in the Klingon appearance. They went from a human-like race to an almost animal one. The lame attempt to explain the physical change in Enterprise didn't help either. DS9 made explaining that an impossibility with Kor, Kang and Koloth reappearing in that one episode. As Moore said, there is no possible way to explain that except to say that it was a design change.
But atleast enterprise addressed it!

I would say the addition to the V ridges on Romulans by TNG has to rank up there.
 
The "first look" at a "new species", like the Ferengi-only to find out that centuries earlier humans had extended contact with them.

And that they seemed to be well known throughout the Alpha Quadrant by the time of DS9.
Extended? Just how long was that? A few hours? I'm not sure all the time in "Acquisition" and "Little Green Men" add up to extended contact. Heck, Picard met them but did not see them in "The Battle" years before the events of "The Last Outpost", who can really say how often the member race of the UFP have encountered the Ferengi.

I have to admit, Enterprise took some precautions in order to try to avoid a continuity conflict.

They might have slipped in some places;

Ferengi: I know a Bolian Female.....I could introduce you
The Ferengi are slavers. The Bolian is probably property, captured on a raid similar to the one seen on Enterprise.It doesn't mean the Ferengi and the Bolians know each other in an official capacity.


If Starfleet asked around they could have found out more-pictures, beliefs, ideals, etc.

Who's to say they didnt and came up with nothing. I got the impression Muk and Co were off the beaten path. Though they did find out quite bit by the 24th Century:
The Last Outpost said:
Captain's log, stardate 41386.4. We are in pursuit of a starship of Ferengi design

The Last Outpost said:
RIKER: Which reports do not conflict?
DATA: That the Ferengi are, well, the best description may be traders.
PICARD: What kind of traders?
DATA: A comparison modern scholars have drawn from Earth history likens the Ferengi to the ocean-going Yankee traders of eighteenth and nineteenth century America, sir.
RIKER: From the history of my forebears. Yankee traders.
DATA: Who in this case sail the galaxy in search of mercantile and territorial opportunity

By the time of DS9 the Ferengi were generally well known and had reputations.
It's like the show took a big leap from them being unseen to being popular.
In Cardassian space, where there was little UFP contact at first. I would say that once the cat was out of the bag the Ferengi were quite aggresive in establishing themselves in UFP and Klingon space. Sort of like Starbucks

The Ferengi MUST have interacted with other aliens, many who were basically just "forehead aliens"-they looked too similar to humans.

Yet in The Last Outpost, the Ferengi seemed shocked by the appearance of humans.

And then there's the females wearing no clothes part. After all the interactions with other aliens, they are shocked that human females wear clothes?

Well let's look at that exchange:

The last Outpost said:
TARR [OC]: Your complete message not received, Enterprise, but visual communication is against our custom.
PICARD: And it is against Starfleet orders to accept a surrender otherwise. Do you withdraw your surrender?
TARR [OC]: You give us no choice, Enterprise. May we have a visual on you as well?
PICARD: Agreed, DaiMon Tarr. You should be able to view us now. Are we on your screen?
(The face of a humanoid with enormous ears fills the viewscreen. He even has crooked pointed teeth)
TARR [on viewscreen]: Yes. The ugliness of the human was not an exaggeration. I do not know how your twisted alien culture has paralysed our vessel, but I concede your Enterprise is superior. We will return your worthless T9 device and we offer the life of our second officers as required by the Ferengi code.

They find humans to be ugly and no doubt feel the same about races that look similar. No matter how often they see human looking aliens or females with clothes on their ingrained cultural bias will come into play and evoke a negative response.

It also establishes the Ferengi's unwilling to share information about themselves.

They made the same continuity mistake with the Borg too.
What "mistake' would that be? The Borg had already been encountered long before "Q Who". Voyager esablished that. And of course there's First Contact
 
I'm saying that BOBW had them talk to themselves about how the Borg wanting to assimilate lifeforms was a new thing that didn't match up with their past goals.

Going by memory, but isn't the exchange something like:

SHELBY: I thought they weren't interested in us, only our technology.
PICARD: Their priorities appear to have changed.

This says to me that AS FAR AS STARFLEET WAS AWARE (based on one encounter, in "Q Who") the Borg weren't interested in actual people. Of course, that was only one encounter. Not that it didn't match up to "past goals" - you can't assess a culture like the Borg based on one brief encounter.
 
We can disregard Q's exact words because...well it's Q, I wouldn't put it past him to embellish things a bit.

But you'd think Guinan would have told them, after all she would have heard about it from other survivors (how else would she have known, if she wasn't even there?)
 
I would say the addition to the V ridges on Romulans by TNG has to rank up there.

^^^ :lol: Indeed! Strange that that one has received significantly less attention [than the Klingons].

Actually, it's not so strange, since it's easily explainable as a racial thing. Some Romulans have ridges, some don't. Remember, most Romulans we see in TOS were wearing helmets, for all we know they could have had ridges on their foreheads. Also, take into account that Spock was able to walk around the streets of Romulus without anyone asking "where are your forehead ridges?"
 
The superfast Earth-to-Vulcan ride in XI.

So you wanted them to show the entire several hour journey?

I think we're supposed to assume that it had been several hours before Chekov's message was delivered

I must have shown it a hundred times already. The way the scene is edited, there can't be a timespan in between. Sulu reports they have reached maximum warp, and in the very same scene, Chekov makes the announcement. Unless the acceleration to maximum warp takes several hours, the journey to Vulcan as seen in this movie takes 5 minutes. One of several cases in the movie where the writer's/director's intention wasn't properly executed. We are supposed to assume that it takes several hours (that's the intention), but the editing doesn't support this (that's the execution).
Had Sulu reported maximum warp before they cut to McCoy and Kirk walking into sickbay, or had they removed Sulu's report altogether, then it would have been right.

Sorry disagree. The ship goes underway (twice)...
Kirk arrives at sickbay not wearing his cadet uniform - where did that go?
He's put to sleep - no duration given, but implied not for 3 minutes
The '3 minutes to Vulcan' is announced
McCoy is in a different uniform
Kirk awakes.

There's a sizable time gap there, e.g. two clothing changes are shown, and once you allow that could be higher.

Sulu just says "Maximum warp, sir". Maybe they dropped out earlier, maybe they took a while to accelerate, maybe they hit a TMP wormhole... maybe they were at max for 10 hours. The speed will still be maximum whether it was 3 minutes or 3 days.
 
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