Revisiting Star Trek Continues...

[MikeH92467]

Thanks for popping back in, Treadwell...

A musical? as somebody who can't keep a tune, I'd have been terrified at that idea were I part of the cast...could most of them sing?

The audio drama Starship Excelsior did it in 2009. We pulled it off, in the sense that we got it done and released it. It's still available at the website or Spotify or...wherever...

 

[James Kerwin]

I don't know when Kipleigh Brown and James Kerwin started dating, but if it was before filming on Fairest Of Them All, I would guess one brought the other in and that was when Brown's role was clarified and her involvement in a "sequel to Gary Mitchell" was being developed.

Well, I haven't been on these boards in many years (what'd I miss? lol) but I feel the need to correct this speculation for professional reasons.

Kipleigh and I ended our relationship many years prior to STC. We saw no reason not to work together, though, because we always got along well as artists. Kipleigh and Vic both appeared in a short film I directed when STC was beginning. Vic asked me to come onto STC for episode 3 ("Fairest"). Kipleigh contacted Vic to let him know she'd like to be a part of it as well, because the first two episodes had turned out nicely. Vic asked my opinion, and I said, "Sure, why not."

My original script for "Fairest" did not name the conn officer in question; it was only after Vic and Kipleigh had come to an agreement for her to appear in that role that I thought "Huh, she looks kinda like Andrea Dromm; that'd be a funny little in-joke if we said this was 'Smith' in the Mirror Universe!" And so we did. It was never intended to go beyond that.

When Chris White turned in the first draft of his script for episode 4, it became apparent that we'd need another conn officer in it as well. UPM (later co-producer) Kasey Shafsky suggested we bring "Smith" back — this time her Prime Universe counterpart — and we saw no reason not to. And that was that.

The WNMHGB connection was thought up by the finale's writer, sci-fi novelist Robert J. Sawyer. It had not been pre-planned.

 

[Phoenix219]

Another aspect that proved a bit disappointing from both STC and New Voyages, is their forgetfulness at continuing the supporting characters' personal lives.

Of course Kirk is Kirk and had a few trysts during NV and STC's 10 episodes, Spock was shoehorned into an unlikely romance with McKennah, despite that in the 3rd season he lucked out with Droxine and the Romulan Commander.

McCoy is more of a one-woman type, no mention of Yeoman Barrows at all but at least STNV brought back Natira for a second go around. Scotty was a big disappointment because nothing further happened between himself and Mira Romaine (hopefully in a second appearance they could at least show Mira responding to Scotty as much as he did towards her).

Chekov was shown as a younger Kirk as far as romances, so even though Irina had amazing story possibilities, it would still make sense that Chekov would keep chasing girls across the galaxy. Sulu had the excellent NV episode where they acknowledged his daughter from Generations and the beginning of a romance therein, but Uhura seems like she is destined to never get an onscreen romance of her own. It's too bad that STC didn't attempt this.

The episode of NV with Natira was never actually released though, was it?

 

[FredH]

The episode of NV with Natira was never actually released though, was it?

Unless I’m thinking of something else, wasn’t it eventually, just without completed effects? The one with Richard Hatch?

 

[Phoenix219]

Unless I’m thinking of something else, wasn’t it eventually, just without completed effects? The one with Richard Hatch?

Apparently, it was released many years later, just a couple of years ago, and I completely missed it. I thought they were done a decade ago, and have not kept up with the fanfilm community since everything was gutted. I had no idea! Well I have a new episode to watch, thats pretty cool....

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[Phoenix219]

Anyways, on catching up with this thread, I did have one comment on the controversial "Embracing the Winds." Not trying to start any political conversations, by the way. But, considering the timing of its release, I always had the impression that it was a commentary on US politics and a female President, in particular, Hillary Clinton - the idea that yes, we might be ready for a woman, and there is nothing wrong with that, but its not you, and not now, and you are untrustworthy, and have made mistakes in your past, so move on, it doesn't matter how much you want it, you shoudln't get it. I may be projecting, but I was very into the political conversations of the time period, and given Trek has always done commentary and metaphors for real life ideals, that is how I always took it. I could be completely wrong, and YMMV - just thought i'd throw that into the discussion.

 

[Just a Bill]

Spock was shoehorned into an unlikely romance with McKennah

Huh, that always read as more of a deep friendship to me. Almost siblings.

I thought "Huh, she looks kinda like Andrea Dromm; that'd be a funny little in-joke if we said this was 'Smith' in the Mirror Universe!" And so we did. It was never intended to go beyond that.
... Kasey Shafsky suggested we bring "Smith" back — this time her Prime Universe counterpart
... The WNMHGB connection was thought up by the finale's writer, sci-fi novelist Robert J. Sawyer. It had not been pre-planned.

Wow, then I'd say it's remarkable how well it worked out in the finale. I had not remembered Smith holding Mitchell's hand, so this connection hit me like a ton of bricks (in the good way). I had that "Surely this can't be true??" feeling, followed by the realization that "No, this is not a trick. Wow."

Thanks for the background!