Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>
I just finished Unworthy, and I loved it. Great job again Kirsten!
I just finished Unworthy, and I loved it. Great job again Kirsten!
VOY: Unworthy by Kirsten Beyer Review Thread (Spoilers!)
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You're probably right about "cool" being a piece of slang that's proven its longevity already. Though I think Voyager, for some reason, was more prone to slang overall -- I'm trying to think of any TNG or DS9 characters saying things like "cool" or "sucks" and I can't recall. (I think I'll take a look at the resource above to find out for sure!)
Very true -- it's not as though the storyline was out of character for them! I was a bit surprised that B'Elanna changed gears so quickly and agreed to remain on Voyager without a fight of any kind. But again it's a case of parenthood overriding previous character tendencies -- I think she learned her lesson about isolation when Miral got so sick.
You're probably right about "cool" being a piece of slang that's proven its longevity already. Though I think Voyager, for some reason, was more prone to slang overall -- I'm trying to think of any TNG or DS9 characters saying things like "cool" or "sucks" and I can't recall. (I think I'll take a look at the resource above to find out for sure!)
Very true -- it's not as though the storyline was out of character for them! I was a bit surprised that B'Elanna changed gears so quickly and agreed to remain on Voyager without a fight of any kind. But again it's a case of parenthood overriding previous character tendencies -- I think she learned her lesson about isolation when Miral got so sick.
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Who's idea was it that the baby would randomly use inappropriate Klingon words? Made me LOL.
Who's idea was it that the baby would randomly use inappropriate Klingon words? Made me LOL.
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I thought that was the way all living beings are hard-wired: No matter what the language is, among the first words you pick up are the ones that you're told you shouldn't say.
Who's idea was it that the baby would randomly use inappropriate Klingon words? Made me LOL.
I thought that was the way all living beings are hard-wired: No matter what the language is, among the first words you pick up are the ones that you're told you shouldn't say.
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Finished last night & loved it. Glad to see Chakotay back in the center seat & glad to see the end of the B'Elanna/Klingon saga. I don't mind the tention between Paris & Kim, there's always been some tention here & there on Voyager & the scene at the end w/ them in the holodeck was great.
Nice to see a Fleet Captain again, the only one I remember is Pike.
The Indign were a very interresting group, I hope we learn more about them in the future. I'm also glad to see that communication w/ Starfleet isn't instant over this vast distance
Can't wait for the next installment of Voyager.
Finished last night & loved it. Glad to see Chakotay back in the center seat & glad to see the end of the B'Elanna/Klingon saga. I don't mind the tention between Paris & Kim, there's always been some tention here & there on Voyager & the scene at the end w/ them in the holodeck was great.
Nice to see a Fleet Captain again, the only one I remember is Pike.
The Indign were a very interresting group, I hope we learn more about them in the future. I'm also glad to see that communication w/ Starfleet isn't instant over this vast distance
Can't wait for the next installment of Voyager.
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It's one of those testing limits things little kids love to do to learn about the world.
Who's idea was it that the baby would randomly use inappropriate Klingon words? Made me LOL.
I thought that was the way all living beings are hard-wired: No matter what the language is, among the first words you pick up are the ones that you're told you shouldn't say.
It's one of those testing limits things little kids love to do to learn about the world.
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Mrs. Beyer is the best thing to happen to VOY, in perhaps ever. I finished Unworthy last night and once again Mrs. Beyer really breathed life into the VOY characters and made them feel real and interesting to me.
However, I like Full Circle more. Though things seemed to actually come more full circle in Unworthy than the first book. The Indign were an interesting species, but I didn't think they were all that threatening, so there wasn't much dramatic tension for me when they attacked, even en masse. Meegan was much more of a threat and I'm curious to see what havoc she wreaks in the DQ. The Species 8472 twist was quite the surprise. For a moment, I thought that Eden might be one, but for it to be Batiste...wow. Definitely wasn't expecting that. I hope that isn't the last we see of Species 8472. Perhaps Mrs. Beyer can improve upon them like she did the rest of the VOY characters.
Not sure how I feel about a budding Cambridge/Seven romance. I can see him liking her, but I'm not sure why she would like him. Cambridge is a fun character, but he only works in small doses. It's already starting to wear on me that everyone seems to come around to his unorthodox methods and give him a pass on being a jackass. I don't quite buy that. I enjoyed the Cambridge/Chakotay relationship in FC more. Here, I thought Chakotay was way to laid back with Cambridge, and a lot of things.
I liked where Torres and Paris wound up, and how her return affected Harry. Also liked the potential Conlon/Harry match. So, there was a lot of good character work on display here.
I do wish that they had made Eden a Commodore or Admiral though.
Mrs. Beyer is the best thing to happen to VOY, in perhaps ever. I finished Unworthy last night and once again Mrs. Beyer really breathed life into the VOY characters and made them feel real and interesting to me.
However, I like Full Circle more. Though things seemed to actually come more full circle in Unworthy than the first book. The Indign were an interesting species, but I didn't think they were all that threatening, so there wasn't much dramatic tension for me when they attacked, even en masse. Meegan was much more of a threat and I'm curious to see what havoc she wreaks in the DQ. The Species 8472 twist was quite the surprise. For a moment, I thought that Eden might be one, but for it to be Batiste...wow. Definitely wasn't expecting that. I hope that isn't the last we see of Species 8472. Perhaps Mrs. Beyer can improve upon them like she did the rest of the VOY characters.
Not sure how I feel about a budding Cambridge/Seven romance. I can see him liking her, but I'm not sure why she would like him. Cambridge is a fun character, but he only works in small doses. It's already starting to wear on me that everyone seems to come around to his unorthodox methods and give him a pass on being a jackass. I don't quite buy that. I enjoyed the Cambridge/Chakotay relationship in FC more. Here, I thought Chakotay was way to laid back with Cambridge, and a lot of things.
I liked where Torres and Paris wound up, and how her return affected Harry. Also liked the potential Conlon/Harry match. So, there was a lot of good character work on display here.
I do wish that they had made Eden a Commodore or Admiral though.
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Cambridge is based on Hugh Laurie, more specifically the character of "House, MD" who was given a pass on being a jackass because he's a brilliant doctor if a lousy human being.
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Actually I found Cambridge to be much more agreeable and reasonable than House. Which makes sense, since someone who acted like House would've been drummed out of Starfleet long ago. Cambridge may have an attitude by Starfleet standards, but he's much more sedate and respectful for the chain of command than House has ever been.
Actually I found Cambridge to be much more agreeable and reasonable than House. Which makes sense, since someone who acted like House would've been drummed out of Starfleet long ago. Cambridge may have an attitude by Starfleet standards, but he's much more sedate and respectful for the chain of command than House has ever been.
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Well. technically, it would be the first time, since there wasn't a center seat, as such, before the refit.
Well. technically, it would be the first time, since there wasn't a center seat, as such, before the refit.
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finished the book last night and wanted to once again congratulate Kirsten on what is (combined with Full Circle) the absolute best VOY story I have ever come across.
As with Full Circle, I finished Unworthy a VOY-R fan, and can't wait to read more about the crew.
Well done!
finished the book last night and wanted to once again congratulate Kirsten on what is (combined with Full Circle) the absolute best VOY story I have ever come across.
As with Full Circle, I finished Unworthy a VOY-R fan, and can't wait to read more about the crew.
Well done!
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^Nothing yet. There won't be another Voyager book until, at least, 2011. And we're not even sure if Kirsten will be the next author on the VOY-R. It could any one of several talented writers that Pocket has in their...ahem...pocket
.
^Nothing yet. There won't be another Voyager book until, at least, 2011. And we're not even sure if Kirsten will be the next author on the VOY-R. It could any one of several talented writers that Pocket has in their...ahem...pocket
.
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So, it's confirmed that there are no new current-universe Voyager books for another year, or is that just speculation?
^Nothing yet. There won't be another Voyager book until, at least, 2011. And we're not even sure if Kirsten will be the next author on the VOY-R. It could any one of several talented writers that Pocket has in their...ahem...pocket
So, it's confirmed that there are no new current-universe Voyager books for another year, or is that just speculation?
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^There are no VGR books on the 2010 schedule as it currently stands. However, the schedule is always subject to modification. There's always a chance that additional books could be added or that one book could be switched with another. Although given the current lack of movement on the new-editor front, I wouldn't hold my breath for any new 2010 projects beyond what's already been contracted and announced.
^There are no VGR books on the 2010 schedule as it currently stands. However, the schedule is always subject to modification. There's always a chance that additional books could be added or that one book could be switched with another. Although given the current lack of movement on the new-editor front, I wouldn't hold my breath for any new 2010 projects beyond what's already been contracted and announced.
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I'm currently reading the book; it's good. (Actually things have started to get interesting with the impulse drives suddenly activating by themselves)....
*shiver*
Some quick thoughts:
*I found the Meegan/Doctor love 'thang' interesting....and it seems like Meegan is not entirely humanoid.
*Asfarah is pretty cool (and is seemingly 'hot'): Ebony-skinned, aqualine nose, looking way younger than her 50+ years; statuesque, toned; wears a 24th century version of the duty skirt and boots every now and then...
She has a fair, calm, demeanor. {It'll be interesting to see how she deals with the pain-in-the-ass Batiste....
*Batiste-He's annoying; but he's an annoying character that a reader like me is interested in. I want to see how the crew deals with his overbearing attitude as events unfold.
*Paris and Kim need to grow up; both have bigger responsibilities now, they should act like it. [The fun is seeing if they actually DO grow up].
*There was thankfully a brief encounter with Neelix.
*I like the members of the Hawking and the Galen as well....
*Hugh Cambridge is pretty cool (and direct, in a good way) too...
I'm currently reading the book; it's good. (Actually things have started to get interesting with the impulse drives suddenly activating by themselves)....
*shiver*
Some quick thoughts:
*I found the Meegan/Doctor love 'thang' interesting....and it seems like Meegan is not entirely humanoid.
*Asfarah is pretty cool (and is seemingly 'hot'): Ebony-skinned, aqualine nose, looking way younger than her 50+ years; statuesque, toned; wears a 24th century version of the duty skirt and boots every now and then...
She has a fair, calm, demeanor. {It'll be interesting to see how she deals with the pain-in-the-ass Batiste....
*Batiste-He's annoying; but he's an annoying character that a reader like me is interested in. I want to see how the crew deals with his overbearing attitude as events unfold.
*Paris and Kim need to grow up; both have bigger responsibilities now, they should act like it. [The fun is seeing if they actually DO grow up].
*There was thankfully a brief encounter with Neelix.
*I like the members of the Hawking and the Galen as well....
*Hugh Cambridge is pretty cool (and direct, in a good way) too...
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i really enjoyed Unworthy. i look forward to more from KB, assuming she gets to do it.
i really enjoyed Unworthy. i look forward to more from KB, assuming she gets to do it.
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