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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Hmm. Thanks. I don't know she is. IMDB didn't help either.
Not since I had to turn my phone sideways to see them
How else does one hold their phone?
Just FYI: The 25% different-clause is a common myth between designers. As in: This rule is nowhere written down, and is essentially meaningless because you can't quantify how much exactly 25% are (in fact, in copyright's clauses it usually is enough if one major thing is definitely the same!).
But! It has endured among the designers, and has become somewhat of an unwritten rule, since just so many people abide by it. So if some producer tells a designer "Make it different so we can make a new trademark for it", chances are, in the back of his head he has this 25% benchmark, and tries to make it that much different - though obviously by whatever metrics he himself works by.
The most logical explanation is thus, someone told John Eaves to make it distinct from the original - because if they just would have used the original design, all contracts for models, videogames, books, merchandise etc. from the old model apply. If they make a new Enterprise, they can happily sell this model under the Discovery-license, and we can have for example an Eaglemoss-model of the Discoprise in the Disco-line.
Artistically a stupid decision. Change for change's sake. But from a marketing standpoint it makes sense, and is much easier to manage, than to check 50+ years old contracts for the original design.
But! It has endured among the designers, and has become somewhat of an unwritten rule, since just so many people abide by it. So if some producer tells a designer "Make it different so we can make a new trademark for it", chances are, in the back of his head he has this 25% benchmark, and tries to make it that much different - though obviously by whatever metrics he himself works by.
The most logical explanation is thus, someone told John Eaves to make it distinct from the original - because if they just would have used the original design, all contracts for models, videogames, books, merchandise etc. from the old model apply. If they make a new Enterprise, they can happily sell this model under the Discovery-license, and we can have for example an Eaglemoss-model of the Discoprise in the Disco-line.
Artistically a stupid decision. Change for change's sake. But from a marketing standpoint it makes sense, and is much easier to manage, than to check 50+ years old contracts for the original design.
And they want to sell even more stuff. Which puts the idea of "they just wanted it to be modern because people wouldn't watch otherwise" to bed.
I don't mind making changes, what I do mind is when people are dishonest about the reasons behind those changes. Don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining.
Aside: Just came across this design. Said artist unknown:
Wow, that’s imho a really sleek yet retro looking ship. Would be cool to see that as a small science vessel. The Nova class of its time.
Why can't it be both?
Tuskin has a point. One can piss on your shoes while it's raining 
On a slightly more serious note, is there that much Discovery merchandise? Admittedly I live in Germany but I haven't seen anything except for the three books and nine (or so) comics. I know of the Eaglemoss stuff, but I'd imagine they would put out a new Enterprise model regardless of DSC redesigning the ship.
On a slightly more serious note, is there that much Discovery merchandise? Admittedly I live in Germany but I haven't seen anything except for the three books and nine (or so) comics. I know of the Eaglemoss stuff, but I'd imagine they would put out a new Enterprise model regardless of DSC redesigning the ship.
I just noticed something, as some of you have noticed there are square cut outs on the bottom of the Enterprise's impulse engines. Well there are similar squares on the top of the excelsior refit impulse engines.
John Eaves did help design the refit's changes, so it might not be a coincidence.
John Eaves did help design the refit's changes, so it might not be a coincidence.
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But this isn't the Enterprise E.
Although the bottom of the -E's Engines does seem to have squares as well, but they pop-out instead of being indented.
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Same designer. Same bag of tricks.
You could say that about every trek designer, they each have their own quirks.
Every time I see Kor's sig i cant remember if I really liked his post or not but i usually like them so i dont have to click that I liked them.
Not dark and depressing enough for current audiences.
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