USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Are you sure about that?
Sea Fever
BY JOHN MASEFIELD
I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;
And the wheel’s kick and the wind’s song and the white sail’s shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea’s face, and a grey dawn breaking.
I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.
I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull’s way and the whale’s way where the wind’s like a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick’s over.
BY JOHN MASEFIELD
I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;
And the wheel’s kick and the wind’s song and the white sail’s shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea’s face, and a grey dawn breaking.
I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.
I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull’s way and the whale’s way where the wind’s like a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick’s over.
I am well versed in the classics, Doctor.
(I was doing the bit in the shuttle from Star Trek V)
Right, I knew that....I just figured there might be X number of people reading the thread who were not familiar with it, so thought it was worth posting.
I too was doing the schtick. A great character moment.
What is that, a sister ship of the Orville?
If it is, I hope it has an anti-banana rayWhat is that, a sister ship of the Orville?
Isn't the main criticism about this design how not like the original it is?
Come on, man. You know that's not true.
Hummm... Very interesting perspective. Food for thought. Thanks for that.
...lack of restraint... That's definitely an apt description of the JJprise (and the Discoprise)!
I think the genius of Jeffries design is basically the perfect arrangement of shapes.
A saucer, three cylinders, a few connecting struts - arranged in a way to become the most iconic starship shape in history. Perfectly balanced, elegant, graceful. Any yet also functional.
IMO even with the modern blockbuster/action mindset you can super easily make a faithfull update - if you keep the same shapes!
The original refit is a perfect example - though even there, the radical change of the warp nacelles and struts make it almost a completely new entity, distinct of the original. Funnily, since exchaning the engines is the most believable part of the ship overhaul.
The JJprise has a bit of the problem that it distorts those shapes a bit too much. The nacelles are to close to each other (the ship doesn't look balanced from the top, only from front/back and side), and a bit too front-heavy. The saucer is too wide compared to the other elements, and the secondary hull too small, which messes with the dimensions the the width of the ship (Though I still like it very much!)
The Discoprise has two problems - the reduced height robs it of it's elegance, and gives it more of an agressive fighting stance, as do the other brutalistic edges and corners that are even on the model from the 60s a bit more rounded, as well as the dark color palette. The other thing is the weird mish-mash of using original and refit-elements, both of which are super well defined and iconic designs, that gives it a bit of an unclear and arbitrary mashed-up identity.
Ditto on this post.
Row row row your boat!
That's one thing that V did right.
Actually we have confirmation that creative was dictated to make the Enterprise 25% different. Sure, we can only guess why, but it's a safe guess it was a $$ decision. ALL decisions are money decisions. Always.
Yes since it’s supposed to be the same ship...
And since it’s supposed to be the same ship - as we’ve already seen in Star Trek - it’s not unreasonable to expect that the DSC Enterprise (that looks relatively similar to the prime Enterprise on the outside with some localised changes that have been discussed to death here) looks similar to the prime Enterprise inside, rather than what looks like a redress of the disco sets
How about “moon over Rigel VII”?
I don't buy it. 25% different doesn't actually mean anything. You can't quantify that.
Why would John Eaves lie about that?
Sure he was wrong about it being because CBS didn't own the rights, but that is what they told him.
Who said he lied? Just because I don't think the information is correct doesn't mean he was dishonest about it.
Yeah. I think there's just some misunderstanding of what he meant. I don't think he literally meant they had some arithmetic to determine degree of difference
"Folks, we're at 24.9% what can you get me?"
"we can remove the grid thingies on the rear"
"Grid thingies only show up on the Cage, that makes them neutrally-boyant in the Difference Equations. How about the deflector dish?"
"If needs that to deflect things, sir. I'm telling you,I've looked through all these systems and there isn't anything left to give. I can run it through the simulator again.."
"Damnit, no more goddam simulations! We're bringing that ship back from the moon with the crew alive. Failure is not an option! Now there's got to be something.."
"Well it's a long shot, sir but maybe.. maybe.."
"What.. look we're running out of time. Tell me."
"We reduce the orange stripe count by a factor of 2, per side"
"Will she still fly without the stripes?"
"Not as fast, but she'll get there. I think. We can compensate with blue glow."
"Alright people, we have a plan. Let's get those erasers out and start removing stripes. Capcom, tell Pike and the crew we have a procedure!"
EDIT: NVM, I don't think it's related. Probably. My head exploded reading that malarkey. Removed for the sake of everyone else on this board.
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This was more tense and dramatic than the s1 finale
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