No, he didn't deny the whole hypothetical. He denied the hypothesis or in other words the antecedent. The whole hypothetical wasn't itself really interesting anyway.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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You're not making any sense. The people who write and make the show determine the size requirements based on what they want the ship to do in-story. Anything smaller would be too small by definition; anything larger would be too big by definition.
This isn't up for debate.
And yes he did deny the whole thing. He even took pains to make sure he denied both parts of the argument; without, of course, explaining why.
The people who actually make the show are, in your mind, irrelevant when it comes to determine whether it is part of the prime timeline? Think about that. You could just as well say that every shot of TOS that shows different versions of the studio model takes place in a different timeline, in order to explain the differences in appearance from one shot to the other. But would that make sense, or would it be over-analysing things?
Long-lived series like Trek have inconsistencies and retcons almost as a given. That doesn't mean we're playing with different timelines. In fact, I'd say that were it not for the reboot, no one here would be talking about alternate timelines or realities.
If you say so....
Yep.My advice would be: meditate on the difference between hypothesis, consequent, and the whole logical implication, and meditate on what @Serveaux actually denied. You might find that you've just misunderstood what was said.
Which reboot? Kelvin or STD?
Yes, but is it not a reason to date someone hot?
Shamelessly superficial, here.
Depends on how hot is hot..that determines one's level of abuse tolerance, or tolerance of shitty personality. If extremely attractive, you can over look things for a time, but eventually the problems change the novelty of hotness into repugnance and you're off looking for new and better hottness.
Sturgeon's Law:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SturgeonsLaw
90% of everything is utter shit.
DIS isn't utter shit. It's massively better than most of what's on television: Scripted reality, sitcoms, most non-high profile procedurals...
DIS is in the premiere circle of shows that are actually "watchable". For a regular, non-franchise television show that would be quite an accomplishment.
But for a show with a name as big as "Star Trek" that's a pretty low bar it cleared. And that's the biggest accomplishment I can give it right now: It's working as a television show. Not very good, or anything to be proud of. But it's working.
But it is miles away from the quality of previous Trek shows (even their weaker first seasons), and in direct comparison to the current flagship shows of Netflix or HBO it's almost laughably weak. In this day and age - with the progress television has made since the nineties - "almost as good as VOY's first season" is really just damning with faint praise.
Only one of those is a reboot, and a soft one at that. My point is that the presence of one other timeilne has encouraged fans to throw anything they don't like into imagined alternate ones in order to ignore the things they dislike. Soon they might even do that with individual episodes.
You really think TNG's terrible first season was better than this?
Well, you know what they say about taste.
TNG's very first season had a handfull of genuinely good and imaginative episodes. Not that many, but that's more than I can say about Discovery at the moment. DIS ran into the problem of serialized storytelling when they chose a bad story to span their entire season - as if someone stretched out "Encounter at Farpoint" over 15 episodes, instead of a mercifull short two parter.
And that's just if you straight up compare a syndicated show from the 1980s to a big-budget high profile show from 2018 - what they did back then was straight up revolutionary for their times. But even if you ignore the development of television since then... even now I find TNG's 1st season more interesting to watch.
And that's just if you straight up compare a syndicated show from the 1980s to a big-budget high profile show from 2018 - what they did back then was straight up revolutionary for their times. But even if you ignore the development of television since then... even now I find TNG's 1st season more interesting to watch.
Hey you crazy! Sturgeon, he's a doctor cuts you open when-a you sick.
On that subject, do you think we'll see the ship's sturgeon next season?
I hope he's one of those fish aliens from that Pulaski episode.
Do you think they could get Mick Fleetwood again?
Wait, someone inspired me to create DSC-R,which is remastered to look consistent with TOS.
Not even that.
And they didn't "choose a bad story" - they appear to have proceeded in a half-assed way from some story set-up that had to be thrown out, rewritten or improvised as they went, with some kitbitzing from the folks writing the checks. It's hard to say that they chose anything.
I honestly can't think of one at the moment, outside of maybe Conspiracy.
I don't think the story is bad. It's just ill-fitted for that point in the timeline.
Can't disagree with that. DSC isn't particularily groundbreaking. Not particularily as in, not at all.
I'm one of the last people who'll vigorously defend the quality of TNG Season 1 but "Datalore," "The Big Goodbye" and "11001001" are solid and very creative episodes that stand far above most of the rest of the first year's offerings.
I think "11001001" and "Datalore" are genuinely great episodes. I really also like "Where no One has gone before" and "We'll always have Paris". Then I have somewhat of a soft spot for the 2nd part of "Encounter at Farpoint" (when the story actually starts), and I fondly remember "Heart of Glory" (though this is clearly because of personal experience of seeing the klingons again).
They're not perfect episodes by any means. But I Ilike them very much, and they were completely entrtaining on their own and showed how much potential and a bright future this series had if they get their character stuff in order.
My biggest dissapointment with DIS is the lack of new ideas so far. The best episode was basically a remake of a TNG episode (the timeloop episode where the Enterprise gets destroyed every time) - and even there the TNG one was better. DIS is much better with the character stuff right from the start! But they need some new an imaginative ideas to be interesting.
Agree with the rest of your post though!
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