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Trek Returning to TV in 2017!

I am not familiar with CBS all access, but one good thing about this could be that the fate of the new Trek series will not be based on the outdated Nielsen ratings. They can probably tell exactly how many people streamed or download the show.
 
I'm all down for it. I don't care what universe it's set it, be it the original Prime universe, or the Abrams' era. I love all Star Trek. As long as the stories are good, and I am entertained, let the era be damned.

As for those who are whining and crying ONLY for the Prime Universe, well, I ain't too worried about you. Please, stop acting like Prime Trek is the "only Trek" or "True Trek" because, as always will be pointed out, especially by me... there is no such animal.

"Oh, Gawd, the producers are the same as for the Abrams movies!"
"Oh, Gawd, it won't be real Star Trek!"
"Oh, Gawd, everyone who enjoys Abrams' Trek are idiots, and are keeping us from our beloved Star Trek!"
"Oh, Gawd, my childhood is about to be raped again!"

:rolleyes:

Bring on Star Trek! :)
 
I do not love all of Star Trek equally. There are, in fact, large parts of it I do not like (the two most recent films do not fall into that category). But none of it offends me on any level such that I wish it did not exist, or resent the fans that it has.

All of that is pretty basic, "duh", kinda stuff but after reading this thread I felt like I needed to say it. I hope this new series is good and fun to watch. If it is I will be happy. If it is not, life goes on. I'm still probably more excited for more new movies at this point, but that is because I know that I like that cast and group of characters, whereas this is still a complete unknown. Which is exciting, but nothing that can be analyzed or critiqued at this point in time.

That strikes me as a remarkably sane and sensible attitude!
 
To be honest I'm sick of the prime universe. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the books (specifically the character focused ones), but the prime universe feels so incredibly overcooked and small.
 
Why would the Vulcans be racing the Federation? That's like California competing against the USA.

I imagine it would be Vulcan refugees wanting to restore their planet, in contravention of the Federation Council's wish to keep the time travel device from being used nefariously, recklessly, or at all. Just as an example.


If the pilot episode brings Vulcan back, what will they do with New Vulcan?
 
I can't see Trek surviving on network television nowadays, shows are too ratings dependent and I imagine the show would cost to much to make.

It has a better chance on cable. Should have been on Showtime. CBS owns that network right?

I can't watch streaming shows, so I doubt I can see this until after it comes out on dvd. :(
 

The official notice has this comment:
The new television series is not related to the upcoming feature film Star Trek Beyond which is scheduled to be distributed by Paramount Pictures in summer 2016.
I seriously doubt they would make a *third* universe for this new series.

I could see them doing what they did to relaunch Doctor Who back in 2005, a "soft reboot" of sorts, where they just started telling stories with only vague allusions to the previous TV series, until they they had solidified their story telling and then brought the old and new together.


Announcement:
http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017
Could allusions be so vague as to apply to either Prime or JJTrek? :confused:
 
I won't be bothered by the series being in Abrams universe as long as it revives the explorative, cerebral writing style of the TV shows. I'm skeptical it will.

It certainly won't 'rape my childhood'. It won't affect prime universe Trek at all.

But if it's all 'PEW PEW PEW', and no 'Hey let's discover some new life!' it will suck.
 
I think the Prime continuity ship has long sailed. I really don't see any future production (outside of fan productions) returning to the Prime continuity.

I think the best one could now hope for is some sort of soft reboot not dissimilar from what TNG did.

Isn't current Dr. Who something along those lines? They recognize parts of the Dr. Who mythology without acknowledging specifics?
 
So, in order to watch our new trek....

You must have access to CBS. Probably cable or satellite TV to see the premier ... $$$$$$

Then in order to see the rest of the series, you need to pay for All Access CBS .... $$$$$

... of course you need to have internet access for that so ... $$$$$$

...and this "new deal" isn't even guaranteed to be commercial free. I'm sure a "deal" is forthcoming for extra $$$$$ for that privilege.

So, on a day I should be excited.... I'm not so excited.

Then on top of it, frakin Kurzman is producing.... with Orci along for the ride probably.

On a lighter note....

Did anyone already notice that you could write the start date of January, 2017 differently?

Like:

17.01

:beer:
 
Isn't current Dr. Who something along those lines? They recognize parts of the Dr. Who mythology without acknowledging specifics?

No, the current Doctor Who is a direct continuation of the old show but it starts off directly with a new Doctor. There have been plenty of references to the old show. But the concept of the show allows a sort of reboot with every new Doctor, anyway. So I'm not sure it's a good comparison to Trek.
 
I think the new Trek movies are perfectly fine summer action movies.

They just don't access the same part of the brain I use to love Trek.
 
Isn't current Dr. Who something along those lines? They recognize parts of the Dr. Who mythology without acknowledging specifics?

That's how it was when it started, but it's changed since then. But it was always meant to be canon with the original series.
 
I'll watch it no matter where its set but I'm no fan of the alternate reality created by the JJ Abrams movies so my preference would be the Prime Universe but maybe 100 or 200 years after the TNG era so it can have a fresh start and build on the previous 700 episodes when appropriate just like TNG did back in 1987. A series set in an alternate timeline/universe seems pointless to me. Might as well just reboot the whole thing and be done with it. It would shut everyone up about continuity for a start.
 
Isn't current Dr. Who something along those lines? They recognize parts of the Dr. Who mythology without acknowledging specifics?

That's how it was when it started, but it's changed since then. But it was always meant to be canon with the original series.
Ah, so I wasn't totally mistaken.

I think that, because Doctor Who had been off the air and out of the general public consciousness for sixteen years (or something like that), at first they didn't want the new version to be tied down too much or do too many call-backs to specific details of the original series. That way it would make sense to the new audiences who may not have seen the originals.

Kor
 
It would be unfortunate to lose the benefit of 29 seasons of world building, but I don't blame them for not wanting to require new viewers to remember things.

For me the world of old Star Trek is far less crucial than the spirit of old Star Trek. If they can make it feel like TOS/TNG/DS9, it doesn't matter what timeline or era they use.
 
Isn't current Dr. Who something along those lines? They recognize parts of the Dr. Who mythology without acknowledging specifics?

That's how it was when it started, but it's changed since then. But it was always meant to be canon with the original series.
Ah, so I wasn't totally mistaken.

Basically, they kinda eased their way into the mythology, by using the character of Rose (the Doctor's new companion) as an audience surrogate who gradually learns more about the universe of Doctor as she gets deeper and deeper into his world. So, if you'd never seen the earlier series, you could learn about it at the same time Rose did.

So that, for example, when the Daleks inevitably showed up, older fans knew who they were, but Rose (and younger viewers) could be introduced to them for the first time.

"Dalek? What's a Dalek?"

And, of course, the fact that regenerating Doctors are already built into the series makes recasting easier to swallow for both old viewers and new.

Imagine if TNG had been told from the POV of a newcomer to the 24th Century who didn't know who the Klingons or Vulcans or Starfleet were . . . .
 
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