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Trek Returning to TV in 2017!
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Well, no. CBS is free. Everyone has access to CBS. It's a network.
New viewers don't need to remember things. I know lots of people who watched TNG and the other spin offs but never set eyes on an episode of the original series. Set it a couple of hundred years later and its both a clean slate and a continuation without any need to see previous series. Everyone knows the basics of Star Trek. That's all they need for a starting point. No need to jettison 29 seasons. They only become an inconvenience if the writers become slaves to them. Everything with the major powers in the 4 quadrants was pretty much wrapped up by the end of the TNG era. Perfect excuse to go forward a few centuries and see what's happening as well as create new races and ideas.
But I agree it's more important to capture the spirit of Trek than anything else. No matter where or when it's set if it's not intelligent like the best of Trek and just a dumb action series every week like the movies then it'll be curtains again. I'm not writing it off until I see it anyway. It could be the worst thing ever or the best thing ever. January 2017!
I'll cut-and-paste what I said over three years ago. Here's what I said on July 17, 2012.
I was right. Think outside the box they did. Streaming is the new syndication.
And, in fact, here's what I said on February 12, 2012 about streaming:
I was a little off on how soon and to what extent streaming would take off but I was on the right track.
I was right. Think outside the box they did. Streaming is the new syndication.
And, in fact, here's what I said on February 12, 2012 about streaming:
If a new series is released in the 2010s, it'll be cable for sure. Unless CBS is feeling really experimental and feels like airing it directly on their channel on a Saturday or something.
If it's released around 2020 or later, I'm guessing streaming. Plus the Abrams' trilogy would be finished and what channel to have series on would be a non-issue.
I'm 100% convinced streaming is the wave of the future and it's already replacing syndication. I've lost count of how many series I've discovered or rediscovered thanks to streaming. It's giving old shows a second (or third) life, including the Star Trek series.
... assuming this thread isn't pruned, you enjoy reading through archives, and you're reading this in 2020 or later: Hello from 2012. I hope I didn't make a fool out of myself with the previous paragraph.
I was a little off on how soon and to what extent streaming would take off but I was on the right track.
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Nevertheless, it will air on CBS - at least the first episode will. 
I think "discovering new life" will have be made more meaningful then "Starship discovers new planet, solves some problem on that planet and then that planet is never mentioned again. Repeat same formula every week."
I think Star Trek will need an ongoing need an ongoing story and move away from the planet of the week style story telling.
Why not have a rival power also trying to discover planets and life, so they get new resources and allies in preparation for a war with the Federation. Some episodes the Federation ship wins, others the rival ship wins.
It would interesting to see a rivalry akin to the old European powers during the age of discovery, though the Federation would more sympathetic then any of the old European powers, but the basic idea is the same.
Also Star Trek needs to be leaner, 13 episodes rather 24 a year would keep the story tight and cutting down the amount of characters to select few, so we don't have pointless characters like Harry Kim appear.
Characters are only pointless if they aren't well-written. Mad Men only had 13 episodes a season but still had a rather large cast of interesting and well-developed characters. I doubt the writing of the new Trek show will be on the same level but fewer episodes doesn't necessarily have to equate to a small cast. Even Dark Matter (a sci fi show set on a spaceship with 13 episodes a season) has a main cast of 7 which is what previous Trek shows had.
It was much "reboot-ier" when Davies was the showrunner, particularly at first, it really wasn't until Moffatt took over that it started to present itself more as a continuation of the original series. (Not that this doesn't stop them from updating old villains with little regard to how they we're perhaps originally portrayed/conceived. The old show did that too pretty regularly, but I supppose the time travel angle allows for more leeway with changes to continuity.)
Sums up mu feelings pretty well.
Here, here.I'm just stoked we're getting a new series. I plan on spending the next year and change looking forward to it rather than dreading theoretical problems.
Well frankly, I just don't think Star Trek generally has done a good job balancing a large cast of characters well (DS9 being the big exception) so I would rather they focus on a few characters and do them well, rather then trying to focus on a bunch of characters and have some of them be pointless. They can introduce new characters in season 2, after they developed their main cast in season 1.
I'm just stoked we're getting a new series. I plan on spending the next year and change looking forward to it rather than dreading theoretical problems.
+1!
I'll try to say something briefly here. All most folks seem to care about is that the new show be true to the spirit of the original.
Let Star Trek be Star Trek.
If you want mindless action, watch Armageddon.
If you want dark, watch NuBSG.
If you want a small crew in a hostile universe, watch Firefly.
Star Trek, at it's core, is about the belief that there will be a tomorrow, and that it will be better than today, and that each of us, in our own way, can help make it that way.
Best summed up in that speech by Joan Collins in "City on the Edge of Forever.
(For the record, nobody take my comments about other properties as bad mouthing them. I've seen and enjoyed all those I've listed.)
Some people think that's outdated or naive or hokey. But the very fact that there is so little programming with that kind of message makes it more needed, not less.
Let Star Trek be Star Trek.
If you want mindless action, watch Armageddon.
If you want dark, watch NuBSG.
If you want a small crew in a hostile universe, watch Firefly.
Star Trek, at it's core, is about the belief that there will be a tomorrow, and that it will be better than today, and that each of us, in our own way, can help make it that way.
Best summed up in that speech by Joan Collins in "City on the Edge of Forever.
(For the record, nobody take my comments about other properties as bad mouthing them. I've seen and enjoyed all those I've listed.)
Some people think that's outdated or naive or hokey. But the very fact that there is so little programming with that kind of message makes it more needed, not less.
There is one question I keep coming back to with this story today. Is my fandom for a new trek series that I know nothing about worth 6 dollars a month. I want it to be good, but there is just so many unknowns right now that I'm taking a wait and see approach. It's still more than a year away. There is plenty of time to speculate. I do fear so much speculation will make me tired of the new series before it even airs.
I wouldn't mind a LBTQ character but I really don't want that fact to be shoved in my face. I want it to be a normal thing, as in in the future it doesn't matter what you are or who you sleep with and people just "don't care". There's a quote from my favorite series that says it well:
"My Sexuality is not the most important thing about me".
I just hope we get developed characters and the more I thought about it today, there is something I would love to see. I want to see aspects of all the series in this new show, and I think the best way to do that is setting it much later than the 24th century. I want to see the return of of Xindi from Enterprise, or more Tholians, or even have a hard core storyline with the Romulans. Heck, even a new alien race. If this is a reboot of Trek on TV, than don't do what Into Darkness did and actually make it a reboot.
I wouldn't mind a LBTQ character but I really don't want that fact to be shoved in my face. I want it to be a normal thing, as in in the future it doesn't matter what you are or who you sleep with and people just "don't care". There's a quote from my favorite series that says it well:
"My Sexuality is not the most important thing about me".
I just hope we get developed characters and the more I thought about it today, there is something I would love to see. I want to see aspects of all the series in this new show, and I think the best way to do that is setting it much later than the 24th century. I want to see the return of of Xindi from Enterprise, or more Tholians, or even have a hard core storyline with the Romulans. Heck, even a new alien race. If this is a reboot of Trek on TV, than don't do what Into Darkness did and actually make it a reboot.
Sums up mu feelings pretty well.
Here, here.I'm just stoked we're getting a new series. I plan on spending the next year and change looking forward to it rather than dreading theoretical problems.
Thirded.
I'm hopeful that the new series will be good, but if I don't find things to complain about I lose my geek license.
QFT.
Man, I tried to read the whole thread, but page after page after page of relentless bitching has a dispiriting effect.
I'm glad new TV Trek is coming, and I hope it will be great. With the development in TV story telling and production techniques in the last few years, I'm hoping this will be modern, new Star Trek.
I'm sure we'll see a well-developed arc plot, something Trek has never quite done before. I expect there'll be a few different locations involved:
-A deep space station serving as a hub for missions and diplomacy.
-There should also be a large starship on an important mission (with a few side quests).
-Maybe a third thread about some sort of scientific quest (long term observation of a strange planet; deep diving into a black hole).
Hopefully not too many characters/threads, and hopefully many memorable new characters.
Period will probably be between TOS and TNG. There will be some interesting new aliens, and a cool emerging threat. It will be the JJ-verse of course, but in this period you won't really be able to tell. My only fan-wish is that they find a way to magic Vulcan back into existence.
For some reason, I am imagining the show having a very autumnal look, like the first part of GEN.
I don't want the show to look like it was made in the 1990s/1980s/1970s/1960s. I want it to look and feel new. My nephews will be in their early teens when this comes out, and I want this show to grab them and make them say "Star Trek is awesome!"
Viewers didn't need to remember things between TOS and TNG, but they kinda did need the context established in TNG to get everything about DS9 and Voyager. DS9 more so than Voyager because it pretty much lived in the world and the races established by TNG.
The trouble with going further into the future is the risk of tech paralysis. Technology becomes so advanced you have to make more and more excuses for it not to break the plot. If they did go into the future I'd love it if they started exploring other galaxies with more non-humanoid life is dominant. They can really test Quark's assessment that human tolerance only extends to the two armed, two legged variety.
I would hope for a midsized cast, say 5-7 important main characters with a robust recurring cast. I wouldn't want it to be just trinity-driven like TOS or ENT where the less important characters barely get screen time.
QFT.
Man, I tried to read the whole thread, but page after page after page of relentless bitching has a dispiriting effect.
I'm glad new TV Trek is coming, and I hope it will be great. With the development in TV story telling and production techniques in the last few years, I'm hoping this will be modern, new Star Trek.
I'm sure we'll see a well-developed arc plot, something Trek has never quite done before. I expect there'll be a few different locations involved:
-A deep space station serving as a hub for missions and diplomacy.
-There should also be a large starship on an important mission (with a few side quests).
-Maybe a third thread about some sort of scientific quest (long term observation of a strange planet; deep diving into a black hole).
Hopefully not too many characters/threads, and hopefully many memorable new characters.
Period will probably be between TOS and TNG. There will be some interesting new aliens, and a cool emerging threat. It will be the JJ-verse of course, but in this period you won't really be able to tell. My only fan-wish is that they find a way to magic Vulcan back into existence.
For some reason, I am imagining the show having a very autumnal look, like the first part of GEN.
I don't want the show to look like it was made in the 1990s/1980s/1970s/1960s. I want it to look and feel new. My nephews will be in their early teens when this comes out, and I want this show to grab them and make them say "Star Trek is awesome!"
I'm not going to go through all 27 pages but I looked at the first two.
Out of the first 33 posts, here was the break down:
12 were neutral
12 were positive
8 were negative
1 was mixed
Unless the next 25 pages are radically different from the first two, you and BillJ are blowing things out of proportion.
The reactions seem to be almost evenly split.
Yeah, there are going to be negative reactions, but so what? That doesn't mean the majority of them are.
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