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Things You'd Liked to Have Seen in Star Trek

I agree that his death wasn't necessary for the plot, but I do think it was included to symbolise the hand-over of the torch to the Picard generation, like it or not.
I agree with both of you, but I think Kirk's fate should have been left ambiguous (IE sucked back into the Nexus or something).

I don't think it was necessary to have him in there to begin with. I can understand the reasoning behind it, but TNG was a popular show that had only just gone off the air; surely there was a significant audience for a movie spin-off. The Undiscovered Country had given the original cast a fitting send-off, and bringing some of them back in the next one not only undermined that but suggested a lack of confidence in the TNG cast's ability to pull in an audience.
You are right, a crossover wasn't necessary, and TUC was a decent send off for the TOS crew. Nothing else was needed, really, and we had some TOS characters on TNG as well. So Kirk in a TNG film was just a cherry on top. In theory, not needed but nice to have. However, in practice, Generations simply is an example of what happens when you have a crossover and it isn't done right: it ends up satisfying no one, and would have been better off without having it.
 
It sucks too because all the other TOS appearances were great! Bones, Spock and Scotty's cross-overs were ALL handled very well. I know there's criticism on Unification's story, but I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) anyone was upset at the way Spock himself was utilized.
 
I thought about this while watching "Yesterday's Enterprise" the other day. I've always wondered how TNG may have turned out had this story been expanded into an arc of four or five episodes as opposed to one episode.

--Sran
No more soap-opera story arcs. I still prefer episodic television. Some of my favorite shows of the past were ruined, because I missed a couple episodes and was lost.

I wouldn't have minded Voyager playing a stronger diplomatic role. Playing escort or traveling with ships going in their direction or even pairing with ships crazy enough to join their seemingly impossible journey.

I thought what Voyager really needed was to spend some time around a multi-species liberal-democratic government, something that shared the Federation's core values, or at least enough of them that people could plausibly feel like they were at home. There's a good meaty choice to be made about whether going home is a matter of going to a particular patch of space and time, or whether it's finding people who value the things you do and accept you for who you are, and only Voyager could really have done it.
The core concept of Voyager, which I liked very much, made our protagonists alone... very alone... and far, far from home and friends; among true aliens with very different cultures and values. Had this been explored to its full potential, this show could have been great.
1) Uhura left in command.
Star Trek: The Animated Series, "The Lorelei Signal" , where Uhura takes command of the Enterprise, along with Chapel. TAS did some of those things you listed for TOS. They created more alien creatures, more varied ships, explored better stories, AND gave Trek its first Emmy award.:techman:
 
"If it happened on screen is counts" doesnt carry as much weight with me anymore. If this statement was true then all of the Enterprise D's labels had jokes on them. Every onscreen joke would be counted as canon.
 
It should be obvious: I wanted to see Nichelle Nichols on the center seat, not her animated version.
 
It would have been nice to have had a few gay characters. Seeing as Star Trek was set a couple hundred years into the future. One would think sexual orientation would no longer be an issue. Though all the shows were made in the 60's, 80's, and 90's, I can see why it never happened. Maybe if they did another.
 
It should be obvious: I wanted to see Nichelle Nichols on the center seat, not her animated version.

Fair enough, but that's not what you said. ;)

You're right, and that's because Nichols will always be Uhura to me. So I guess you can call it a Freudian slip! When I say Uhura, I really mean "Nichols as Uhura". I just assumed everyone would know what I meant!

(By the way, this is NOT a knock on Zoe Saldana, who I very much enjoy in the role.)
 
I wouldn't have minded Voyager playing a stronger diplomatic role. Playing escort or traveling with ships going in their direction or even pairing with ships crazy enough to join their seemingly impossible journey.

I thought what Voyager really needed was to spend some time around a multi-species liberal-democratic government, something that shared the Federation's core values, or at least enough of them that people could plausibly feel like they were at home. There's a good meaty choice to be made about whether going home is a matter of going to a particular patch of space and time, or whether it's finding people who value the things you do and accept you for who you are, and only Voyager could really have done it.

Oh I love this, and then it would have caused a enormous division amongst the crew. I think gnerally speaking the Maquis crew members might have been more flexible to the idea of staying in the delta seeing as a trial awaits them most of them back in the Alpha quadrant and it was the intentions of the Maqui to begin with to start their own nation independent from the Federation. Then you have the fact that Voyager thought it was going to take them about 70 years to get back home, and that's taking the risk of traversing Borg space. But then maybe the ideals of this nation wouldn't be exactly the same like perhaps genetic engineering is legal, or they still hold money in high regard so they're kind of like a cross between the Federation and the Ferengi alliance though, not as greedy as the former. Anways here's a quick list of what i would have loved to have seen. 1. Explanations on how the crew gets their quarters cleaned, do they have some sort of sonic sweep that clears all the dust away like a sonic shower, little exocomp like maid drones, or is it done by the none officer personnel? 2. A greater use of space suits, my suspension from reality is jarred a little at the thought of how many planetoids and asteroids in the trekverse are M class. 3. An away team having to deal with drastically different gravity. 4. More episodes with Q....and about the Continuum. 5.Citation Ops!!!!!!! 6. More about the Deltans, and the Andorians, Tellarites post the TOS era, not to mention the Orions.
 
Maybe I need a coffee, but: Did we ever see Scotty in a full blown on the ground fight? I know he slugged a couple of guys over the 3 seasons, but what about a phaser shoot out?

I would've enjoyed seeing a "Redemption" scenario where we see Kirk take command of the Enterprise, Spock another ship, Scotty another, and then maybe Sulu or Uhura. And I would've liked to have seen Scotty and Uhura firing phasers like crazy and kicking ass.
 
I wouldn't have minded Voyager playing a stronger diplomatic role. Playing escort or traveling with ships going in their direction or even pairing with ships crazy enough to join their seemingly impossible journey.

I thought what Voyager really needed was to spend some time around a multi-species liberal-democratic government, something that shared the Federation's core values, or at least enough of them that people could plausibly feel like they were at home. There's a good meaty choice to be made about whether going home is a matter of going to a particular patch of space and time, or whether it's finding people who value the things you do and accept you for who you are, and only Voyager could really have done it.

Oh I love this, and then it would have caused a enormous division amongst the crew. I think gnerally speaking the Maquis crew members might have been more flexible to the idea of staying in the delta seeing as a trial awaits them most of them back in the Alpha quadrant and it was the intentions of the Maqui to begin with to start their own nation independent from the Federation. Then you have the fact that Voyager thought it was going to take them about 70 years to get back home, and that's taking the risk of traversing Borg space. But then maybe the ideals of this nation wouldn't be exactly the same like perhaps genetic engineering is legal, or they still hold money in high regard so they're kind of like a cross between the Federation and the Ferengi alliance though, not as greedy as the former.

Anyways here's a quick list of what i would have loved to have seen.

1. Explanations on how the crew gets their quarters cleaned, do they have some sort of sonic sweep that clears all the dust away like a sonic shower, little exocomp like maid drones, or is it done by the none officer personnel?

2. A greater use of space suits, my suspension from reality is jarred a little at the thought of how many planetoids and asteroids in the trekverse are M class.

3. An away team having to deal with drastically different gravity.

4. More episodes with Q....and about the Continuum.

5.Citation Ops!!!!!!!

6. More about the Deltans, and the Andorians, Tellarites post the TOS era, not to mention the Orions.

Edit: .....and I forgot the most controversial ones of all.

7. I wanted to see humans practicing a real Earth religion Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Shinto, Wicca which ever. It would have taken some balls on the writers part, and realistically speaking as long as humans are humans yep there's going to be spirituality.

8. You remember those dudes in the background with skirts? Why not give one of them a speaking role at one point. Are they gay, do they identify as transgender, or has it just become socially acceptable for men to wear skirts? Maybe Riker wears a uniform with a skirt from time to time, perhaps on away missions where it's hot.
 
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5.Citation Ops!!!!!!!

I know that part of Starfleet's mission is to enforce Federation Law. So you want the Enterprise to go around writing tickets?

I know what you meant. But this isn't SeaquestDSV.
 
It would have been nice to have had a few gay characters. Seeing as Star Trek was set a couple hundred years into the future. One would think sexual orientation would no longer be an issue. Though all the shows were made in the 60's, 80's, and 90's, I can see why it never happened. Maybe if they did another.

Yes, they wouldn't even have needed to devote much explicit attention to it. Just something that mostly is happening in the background as perfectly normal. If a main cast member were gay, treat his episodes no different than those of any other cast member, etc, just show him to be in same-sex relationships without overstating it, etc.
 
5.Citation Ops!!!!!!!

I know that part of Starfleet's mission is to enforce Federation Law. So you want the Enterprise to go around writing tickets?

I know what you meant. But this isn't SeaquestDSV.

Well after the TNG episode 'Force of Nature' they did impose a speed limit of Warp 5 for none emergencies, so it's possible although some how I doubt they'd have their flag ship performing such a lack luster task.

The 'Voyage home proved star trek and marine mammals mix well, and technically Trek did the whales thing first.
 
5.Citation Ops!!!!!!!

I know that part of Starfleet's mission is to enforce Federation Law. So you want the Enterprise to go around writing tickets?

I know what you meant. But this isn't SeaquestDSV.

That's supposed to be "Cetacean Ops," as the Enterprise employed dolphins to assist with navigation and propulsion; be that as it may, I agree with you. They didn't need to show that.

--Sran
 
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