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Things You'd Liked to Have Seen in Star Trek
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Four things that I wish they would have done, in chronological order:
1) I wish that Mirror, Mirror had shown evil Kirk & company trying to pass for the regular crew before Spock had realized what was going on (Of course, the episode would have to be 15-20 minutes longer to do this justice...).
2) I wish that Yesterday's Enterprise had shown Worf in command of the Klingon ship attacking the Enterprise-D at the end. Even just a quick viewscreen shot or a voiceover would've been cool.
3) I wish that they could've done a film with the Romulans as the villains in a TOS movie. I thought that Klingons were getting pretty played out by V.
4) I wish that the TNG crew had done a movie with Q as the villain. John De Lancie deserved a juicy big screen role and it would've been cool to see Q's powers on a feature film budget. Personally, I would've found that more entertaining than Insurrection or Nemesis.
1) I wish that Mirror, Mirror had shown evil Kirk & company trying to pass for the regular crew before Spock had realized what was going on (Of course, the episode would have to be 15-20 minutes longer to do this justice...).
2) I wish that Yesterday's Enterprise had shown Worf in command of the Klingon ship attacking the Enterprise-D at the end. Even just a quick viewscreen shot or a voiceover would've been cool.
3) I wish that they could've done a film with the Romulans as the villains in a TOS movie. I thought that Klingons were getting pretty played out by V.
4) I wish that the TNG crew had done a movie with Q as the villain. John De Lancie deserved a juicy big screen role and it would've been cool to see Q's powers on a feature film budget. Personally, I would've found that more entertaining than Insurrection or Nemesis.
Agreed. It's too bad the cameo that had been written for Carol Marcus in STVI got axed by budget cuts.
It's not the same thing as televised Trek, but have you read KRAD's 2007 TNG novel Q&A? It kinda covers both these two points.
Do you have any more information on this? This is the first I've heard of it. The Memory Alpha article here discusses the decision by Harve Bennett not to include Carol in STIII. There is no mention of any possibility of her occurring in any other film, however here her parts in the novelizations of STIII, STIV, and STVI is discussed.
That was good. Thanks. Man, I wish Bennett would come out with his Trek memoirs.
I also wish we'd seen more of Kurn in TNG.
It had been several years since my initial TNG run through and so I couldn't remember if Kurn makes another appearance after Redemption II, but I see he's got one more apperance in DS9, which I have not seen...
I really liked Kurn, and have been finding myself hoping for another TNG apperance, so I decided to check what future apperances he had.
I loved that battle at the beginning of Redemption II, where Kurn destroys the other 3 Klingons.
AWESOME.
It had been several years since my initial TNG run through and so I couldn't remember if Kurn makes another appearance after Redemption II, but I see he's got one more apperance in DS9, which I have not seen...
I really liked Kurn, and have been finding myself hoping for another TNG apperance, so I decided to check what future apperances he had.
I loved that battle at the beginning of Redemption II, where Kurn destroys the other 3 Klingons.
AWESOME.
Nope, but I'll keep an eye out for it.
In the opening of STVI, there was going to be a "gathering of the crew" sequence where Kirk reassembles the TOS crew. It opened with Kirk in bed with Carol Marcus. They've obviously reconciled and Kirk is clearly enjoying his retirement. A mysterious Starfleet courier with a glowing hand comes by with a message for Kirk. Kirk then leaves to get the rest of the crew, leaving Carol behind to say, "But you're retired... You're retired!"
McCoy is half-drunk at a party, and tells off another doctor for balking at answering a house call. Chekov is at a gambling club, losing to an opponent that Kirk recognizes as a Betazoid ("I vas robbed!"), Uhura is hosting an interstellar radio call-in show, and Scotty is displaying the captured Klingon Bird of Prey to a group of Starfleet cadets. Spock's whereabouts are listed as "classified", setting up his appearance in the briefing scene (I've also heard that Sulu was working as a flying taxi driver in one scene, so I assume that was before they came up with Sulu being Captain of the Excelsior).
The sequence was axed because the production budget was very tight and this saved them about one million dollars. STVI co-writer Denny Martin Flynn later adapted the sequence into his ST novel The Fearful Summons (this time with Spock playing Polonius in a Vulcan production of Hamlet).
I can't seem to find the script for these scenes to link to, but if you have a STVI script handy, this is what was in the omitted scenes 14 to 22.
Yeah. If they'd used Carol or brought back Joan Collins as Edith Keeler, it would've had resonance for the audience, and not just Kirk.
They could've had both, actually.
I was thinking today how good this movie could've been.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's entertaining enough as is, but ooof. It's so easy to see that it could've been 10 times better.
In the opening of STVI, there was going to be a "gathering of the crew" sequence where Kirk reassembles the TOS crew. It opened with Kirk in bed with Carol Marcus. They've obviously reconciled and Kirk is clearly enjoying his retirement. A mysterious Starfleet courier with a glowing hand comes by with a message for Kirk. Kirk then leaves to get the rest of the crew, leaving Carol behind to say, "But you're retired... You're retired!"
McCoy is half-drunk at a party, and tells off another doctor for balking at answering a house call. Chekov is at a gambling club, losing to an opponent that Kirk recognizes as a Betazoid ("I vas robbed!"), Uhura is hosting an interstellar radio call-in show, and Scotty is displaying the captured Klingon Bird of Prey to a group of Starfleet cadets. Spock's whereabouts are listed as "classified", setting up his appearance in the briefing scene (I've also heard that Sulu was working as a flying taxi driver in one scene, so I assume that was before they came up with Sulu being Captain of the Excelsior).
The sequence was axed because the production budget was very tight and this saved them about one million dollars. STVI co-writer Denny Martin Flynn later adapted the sequence into his ST novel The Fearful Summons (this time with Spock playing Polonius in a Vulcan production of Hamlet).
I can't seem to find the script for these scenes to link to, but if you have a STVI script handy, this is what was in the omitted scenes 14 to 22.
STVI co-writer Denny Martin Flinn included elements of this in his post-STVI novel The Fearful Summons. No Carol, though.
In the opening of STVI, there was going to be a "gathering of the crew" sequence where Kirk reassembles the TOS crew. It opened with Kirk in bed with Carol Marcus. They've obviously reconciled and Kirk is clearly enjoying his retirement. A mysterious Starfleet courier with a glowing hand comes by with a message for Kirk. Kirk then leaves to get the rest of the crew, leaving Carol behind to say, "But you're retired... You're retired!"
McCoy is half-drunk at a party, and tells off another doctor for balking at answering a house call. Chekov is at a gambling club, losing to an opponent that Kirk recognizes as a Betazoid ("I vas robbed!"), Uhura is hosting an interstellar radio call-in show, and Scotty is displaying the captured Klingon Bird of Prey to a group of Starfleet cadets. Spock's whereabouts are listed as "classified", setting up his appearance in the briefing scene (I've also heard that Sulu was working as a flying taxi driver in one scene, so I assume that was before they came up with Sulu being Captain of the Excelsior).
The sequence was axed because the production budget was very tight and this saved them about one million dollars. STVI co-writer Denny Martin Flynn later adapted the sequence into his ST novel The Fearful Summons (this time with Spock playing Polonius in a Vulcan production of Hamlet).
I can't seem to find the script for these scenes to link to, but if you have a STVI script handy, this is what was in the omitted scenes 14 to 22.
That sounds pretty awful. Glad budget dictates caused those scenes to be cut.
Have Janeway defeated in a personal battle of wits, wills and ingenuity for once by the villain of the episode. Needn't be a dangerous enemy, a small time smuggler who doublecrossed her and keeps outsmarting her to finally escape would be sufficient.
Not because I'd hate janeway, as I don't. Simply to tone her character down to a somewhat more realistic level.
Not because I'd hate janeway, as I don't. Simply to tone her character down to a somewhat more realistic level.
In the opening of STVI, there was going to be a "gathering of the crew" sequence where Kirk reassembles the TOS crew. It opened with Kirk in bed with Carol Marcus. They've obviously reconciled and Kirk is clearly enjoying his retirement. A mysterious Starfleet courier with a glowing hand comes by with a message for Kirk. Kirk then leaves to get the rest of the crew, leaving Carol behind to say, "But you're retired... You're retired!"
McCoy is half-drunk at a party, and tells off another doctor for balking at answering a house call. Chekov is at a gambling club, losing to an opponent that Kirk recognizes as a Betazoid ("I vas robbed!"), Uhura is hosting an interstellar radio call-in show, and Scotty is displaying the captured Klingon Bird of Prey to a group of Starfleet cadets. Spock's whereabouts are listed as "classified", setting up his appearance in the briefing scene (I've also heard that Sulu was working as a flying taxi driver in one scene, so I assume that was before they came up with Sulu being Captain of the Excelsior).
The sequence was axed because the production budget was very tight and this saved them about one million dollars. STVI co-writer Denny Martin Flynn later adapted the sequence into his ST novel The Fearful Summons (this time with Spock playing Polonius in a Vulcan production of Hamlet).
I can't seem to find the script for these scenes to link to, but if you have a STVI script handy, this is what was in the omitted scenes 14 to 22.
That sounds pretty awful. Glad budget dictates caused those scenes to be cut.
Yeah, pretty bad.
But also consistent with the spotty writing throughout the film, such as the obvious "conspiracy mystery" and self-aware dialogue like, "Once again, we've saved civilization as we know it."
In the 40th anniversary novel Crucible: The Fire and the Rose, Spock notes that Areel Shaw, Janet Wallace, Carol Marcus, and Antonia Salvatori are present at Kirk's funeral. 
I was sad to learn that Bibi Besch passed away in 1996. I also never knew that Samantha Mathis was her daughter.
Kirk's first true love was the Enterprise, then Edith Keeler, though he was probably closer to Spock than anyone else.
Man, it would've been so cool if they had a Joan Collins cameo in Generations.
It could've been a 2-second glance at Edith, with absolutely no lines, but it could've been one of the more powerful moments in the movie.
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