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Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

If we take the FJ stuff into canon (at least, more completely than it has been), IIRC it was taken as a snapshot in time of various records in the Enterprise database during her brief presence in the past in the events shown in "Tomorrow is Yesterday". Not sure how anyone got this information in-universe, but that's not really relevant.

This would have taken place during the first season of TOS and the Federation-class dreadnought was outlined with a dotted line, saying it was "Under Construction". So, sadly, I doubt will see any of those leviathans floating around out there. Maybe the class ship at trials or in drydock (with the "Under Construction" moniker applying to the production run of vessels), but that would be it.
 
When people use language, we also use words non-literally--- metaphorically as when we wax poetic, without going all "Beep-beep-beep-beep The Enterprise is not a want or a desire, it is a mechanical device. Illogical, Illogical, all units relate. Norman coordinate."

When production personnel and actors refer to the Enterprise as another character in the show, they are speaking metaphorically, not literally, to elicit an emotional response and sense of connection. It's employed as part of a different rhetorical strategy than adherence to strict literalism and precise diction. As part of a public relations strategy, the use of language with more emotional connotations serves a rhetorical purpose that a simple, factual, 'The Enterprise is the setting of our stories, our vehicle for getting our characters where we need them to be" does not.

There are contexts in which "The Enterprise is a beautiful lady and we love her" is preferable to "The Enterprise is a wooden filming model constructed by Richard C. Datin," and other circumstances in which the converse is preferable.
There ya go. It's not warp nacelle science ;)

The "Enterprise is a character" debate could be easily settled if we get an episode told from Enterprise's perspective, perhaps with a romance subplot? The shuttlebay clamshell doors could serve as the starship equivalent of a reptile's/dinosaur's cloaca.
COMPUTER: Computed and recorded, dear.
KIRK: Computer, you will not address me in that manner. Compute.
COMPUTER: Computed, dear.
KIRK: Mister Spock, I ordered this computer and its interlinking systems repaired.
SPOCK: I have investigated it, Captain. To correct the fault will require an overhaul of the entire computer system and a minimum of three weeks at a Starbase.
KIRK: I wouldn't mind so much if it didn't get so affectionate.
SPOCK: It also has an unfortunate tendency to giggle.
 
COMPUTER: Computed and recorded, dear.
KIRK: Computer, you will not address me in that manner. Compute.
COMPUTER: Computed, dear.
KIRK: Mister Spock, I ordered this computer and its interlinking systems repaired.
SPOCK: I have investigated it, Captain. To correct the fault will require an overhaul of the entire computer system and a minimum of three weeks at a Starbase.
KIRK: I wouldn't mind so much if it didn't get so affectionate.
SPOCK: It also has an unfortunate tendency to giggle.
The fallacy of your argument here is the fact that the ship's main computer is a component of the Enterprise. It is not the ship itself.
 
That's a lot of arguing for someone who says it's pointless to argue. ;)

A good argument to my point:)
However I'm not suggesting we shouldn't argue or disagree. Otherwise they might as well switch off the internet (though that might be a good idea).
Rather that this argument is pointless as the quote about the Enterprise being a character is presumably a metaphor. There are times when language needs to be precise. Science and law for example. But Trek is art and in art people use metaphor all the time. How exactly does one "Take up arms against a sea of troubles?"
So let's drop the subject and get back to arguing why a CGI render of a fictional spaceship from the future doesn't look exactly like a wooden model of the same fictional spaceship made 50 years earlier.:)

Stuart
 
Not sure if this has been discussed earlier: How many Engineering Refits are there going to be for the Enterprise?
Or will they try to make the two versions work together?
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Yeah people don't embed images from Wiki sites, they don't work. Re-upload them somewhere else.

Based on the file name it's the Engineering from that one Short Trek.
 
The production staff has redesigned and extended many of the sets in order to better serve the TV series.
 
There ya go. It's not warp nacelle science ;)


COMPUTER: Computed and recorded, dear.
KIRK: Computer, you will not address me in that manner. Compute.
COMPUTER: Computed, dear.
KIRK: Mister Spock, I ordered this computer and its interlinking systems repaired.
SPOCK: I have investigated it, Captain. To correct the fault will require an overhaul of the entire computer system and a minimum of three weeks at a Starbase.
KIRK: I wouldn't mind so much if it didn't get so affectionate.
SPOCK: It also has an unfortunate tendency to giggle.
Must have taken that three week layover, since it's never mentioned again. First season weirdness strikes again?
 
I bet when they shut the AR wall off and it's just the screens forming a monochrome 'wall' around set it looks pretty similar :p

But joking aside, if they really do want to change it up all they have to do is load a new file. This virtual production stuff is honestly waaaay too cool.
 
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