New.But which is better...a re-used shot of ILM quality, or a brand new shot of a plastic rocket on strings?
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From Cage to WNMHGB, lots of major refits to the 1701?
No. It's the same ship, new look for the 21st century.
The only evidence that the vessel won't get a refit before Kirk takes over to restore it to its 60s beauty is Ephraim and Dot. Which is about as in-continuity as the Tribbles advert.
And "The Cage"
And "Q&A"
As well as, well, the TOS version looks like shit in comparison. And I say that as someone who loves the TOS look
I got the impression those episodes take place before Strange New Worlds.
Personally I just want them to leave it open. End before they confirm one way or the other. They don't have to drive the steamroller over TOS! It hasn't quite gotten there yet! There's still hope!
Personally I just want them to leave it open. End before they confirm one way or the other. They don't have to drive the steamroller over TOS! It hasn't quite gotten there yet! There's still hope!
It looks like shit is a subjective opinion. I don't think the TOS look could sustain a current show, but I certainly don't feel there is this deep gulf between SNW and TOS. It's just two different ways of telling stories about this period.And "The Cage"
And "Q&A"
As well as, well, the TOS version looks like shit in comparison. And I say that as someone who loves the TOS look
Exactly. I will always enjoy the TOS ship but that doesn't mean I find it needed to be replicated perfectly for this new series. TOS was great. SNW has potential. Neither one takes away from the other.
But nothing's being erased or steamrollered! It's just not being used on this show. Other shows still use it (Prodigy, an Eaglemoss model in the latest Picard episode), and next time they might go back or do something different again.
Wait, where? I only saw an Excelsior and a couple space stations.
Edit: Found an image on Twitter, neat
Broken, missing a nacelle. Click!
Whoa, I totally missed that! That's awesome.
My point of view is that something is obviously going to look different when you see it decades later on a different show, or in a cartoon, or in 3D animation. Every series takes an object's ideal true form and tries to represent it on screen the best they can in a way that suits their style. Like how Star Wars: Rebels has everything slightly deformed to look more like the Ralph McQuarrie concept art.
The SNW ship isn't that, it's something different. I can't reconcile it. If it ever overlaps the time we've already seen then one of the ships has to be wrong. Obvious solution: just don't overlap. Everyone wins. Well, except for the people who want a straight up TOS reboot, and they'd be better served with another alternate universe. Infinite Kirks in infinite reboots.
I don't see it as obviously wrong. It's a dramatic telling of a particular era. One shows it one way, and another shows it another way. The foundational concepts, starships, phasers, tricorders, and other such tech remain the same.
For me, I don't treat it as black and white or with the strict literalism that is often stated.
IDIC but the solution for me is: their both part of the same world, just told from different points of view. Mileage, etc.
That's because the BBC was too busy erasing Doctor Who video taped episodes to make reuse of their video tapes.
(At least Star Trek has never actually lost a filmed episode.)
Am I the only one who wants the ship restored to it's TOS looks by WNMHGB?
Neither are wrong. Just like when a character is recast they other one isn't wrong.
That's because the BBC was too busy erasing Doctor Who video taped episodes to make reuse of their video tapes.
(At least Star Trek has never actually lost a filmed episode.)
That was only the first two Doctors. There’s been like 12 more since then.
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