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Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

Considering that the newest showrunners apparently don’t know how to reconcile the difference between the two designs (having both the TOS and DSC versions as background artwork), it seems I’m not the only one questioning this decision.

.... so you're interpreting the presence of background art that affirms that both the TOS and SNW versions of the ship still "happened" as a bad thing? Jesus, man. You've got your way. The TOS version is just as canonical as the SNW version. At some point the ship had a refit. It's not a big deal.
 
The TOS version is just as canonical as the SNW version. At some point the ship had a refit.

Yep. There’s the version we’ve all known about for 50+ years. And the version we’ve known about for a couple of years, shoehorned between ‘The Cage/Menagerie’ version and the TOS proper version. So when exactly did this refit take place?
 
Yep. There’s the version we’ve all known about for 50+ years. And the version we’ve known about for a couple of years, shoehorned between ‘The Cage/Menagerie’ version and the TOS proper version. So when exactly did this refit take place?

We'll find out!
 
I’m guessing they will never try to reconcile the difference between the Enterprise and Discoprise.
 
It wouldn't surprise me at if some point we get an episode or two completely set in the TOS aesthetic. Maybe it's to double down on Roddenberry's historical recreation explanation, or maybe there's just no explanation at all they do it for the funs.
 
I’m guessing they will never try to reconcile the difference between the Enterprise and Discoprise.
Perhaps at the end of the show, they'll mention that the new pylons are coming in... or we'll see workbees tractoring TOS segements to drydock... something like that.
 
I am starting to wonder if there is some bad blood behind the scenes, between people working on different shows because some of the current shows have started contradicting EACH OTHER.

Example 1: Discovery shows a TOS-accurate Gorn skeleton, and Lower Decks introduces TOS Gorn, but then SNW turns Gorn into Xenomorph ripoffs

Example 2: Lower Decks and Prodigy (and Picard, with a skull) use the familiar Ferengi design, while Discovery changes them.

Example 3: SNW immediately replaces virtually every prop from Discovery Seasons 1 and 2, and immediately changes uniforms. The old props and uniforms are never seen onscreen with the exception of the Discovery Klingon disruptor, and the semi exception of the EV suits being slightly modified versions of the ones from Discovery S2.

Example 4: Discovery has a new Andorian design, and Picard and Lower Decks stick to the ENT design. (Discovery in early seasons has some ENT Andorians in the background however). Neither Picard nor Lower Decks show any DSC style Andorians.

Example 5: Discovery, Picard, and Lower Decks (until S2) EACH have a different Tellarite design and stick to it. However Lower Decks throws in a tusked Tellarite in Season 2 so that gives me some hope. And people working on Prodigy have said that their show will acknowledge all versions of Tellarites as coexisting.

Example 6: Picard reconciles the ridged and non ridged Romulan designs as “Northern” and “Southern” Romulans. SNW, in “A Quality of Mercy”, ONLY shows the “Northern” variety for some reason.

Example 7: Discovery and SNW exclusively show their version of the Constitution class, and Prodigy and Picard show the TOS version on displays. (Picard also shows the DSC S2 version in S1)

Example 8: The food synthesizers on Discovery are never called replicators onscreen in order to maintain canon. They are mistakenly called replicators in a set tour, but that’s it. However, SNW immediately swaps out Discovery’s TOS inspired food synthesizer design for a completely different design without the sliding door, and explicitly places replicator labels on the set.

This is concerning. The shows shouldn’t even be contradicting each other this much. Hopefully it will get better. Aaron J Waltke (works on Prodigy) has mentioned that the people working on the shows are talking to each other to maintain consistency as of when he stated this; but it’s unclear if, or to what extent this HAS BEEN the case always or if communication has increased recently due to these contradictions popping up.

One thing that really got me concerned was that a while ago I was watching a Trekyards video and one of them claimed that “we know people who are working on lower decks who don’t like discovery”. What?! Now I know that Trekyards are not exactly #1 reliable sources all the time but……if it’s true I hope they meant minor people who don’t influence the major decisions.
 
I am starting to wonder if there is some bad blood behind the scenes, between people working on different shows because some of the current shows have started contradicting EACH OTHER.

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Example 7: Discovery and SNW exclusively show their version of the Constitution class, and Prodigy and Picard show the TOS version on displays. (Picard also shows the DSC S2 version in S1)

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This is concerning. The shows shouldn’t even be contradicting each other this much. Hopefully it will get better. Aaron J Waltke (works on Prodigy) has mentioned that the people working on the shows are talking to each other to maintain consistency as of when he stated this; but it’s unclear if, or to what extent this HAS BEEN the case always or if communication has increased recently due to these contradictions popping up.

One thing that really got me concerned was that a while ago I was watching a Trekyards video and one of them claimed that “we know people who are working on lower decks who don’t like discovery”. What?! Now I know that Trekyards are not exactly #1 reliable sources all the time but……if it’s true I hope they meant minor people who don’t influence the major decisions.
In fairness, PIC showed both:
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I don't think there's any infighting or "bad blood" going on here, just a bunch of disparate art direction teams for each show doing their own thing and not quite sharing notes.

Now, that said, I do agree that there should be a slightly more cohesive design language going on across the current crop of shows than is currently being demonstrated. Lower Decks proves that the audience is paying attention to the details they're intentionally throwing into that show in the form of Easter eggs. They have to know that mixing up the art design in these series is driving some fans apoplectic. I dunno... maybe that's the point, to shake things up a bit. :shrug:

And a lot of people don't like Discovery, apparently.
 
I don't think there's any infighting or "bad blood" going on here, just a bunch of disparate art direction teams for each show doing their own thing and not quite sharing notes.
Exactly. They are busy and trying to keep a schedule. Fans worried about it should submit an application to CBS.
They have to know that mixing up the art design in these series is driving some fans apoplectic

No they don't.
 
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Example 3: SNW immediately replaces virtually every prop from Discovery Seasons 1 and 2, and immediately changes uniforms. The old props and uniforms are never seen onscreen with the exception of the Discovery Klingon disruptor, and the semi exception of the EV suits being slightly modified versions of the ones from Discovery S2.
The hypo spray and medkit prop designs are from discovery.

Example 5: Discovery, Picard, and Lower Decks (until S2) EACH have a different Tellarite design and stick to it. However Lower Decks throws in a tusked Tellarite in Season 2 so that gives me some hope. And people working on Prodigy have said that their show will acknowledge all versions of Tellarites as coexisting.
Picard used the Discovery Tellarite design in Season 1, part of the news crew.

Example 7: Discovery and SNW exclusively show their version of the Constitution class, and Prodigy and Picard show the TOS version on displays. (Picard also shows the DSC S2 version in S1)

Lower Decks also showed the TOS Connie.


Example 4: Discovery has a new Andorian design, and Picard and Lower Decks stick to the ENT design. (Discovery in early seasons has some ENT Andorians in the background however). Neither Picard nor Lower Decks show any DSC style Andorians.
Picard doesn’t use the ENT design, it’s missing the head ridges. They’re closer to TOS.

And the ones in DSC season 1 were probably like that to save money. They’re background out if focus actors, no need to slap that complicated makeup on them.
 
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IIRC, the Andorians in PIC also had dark eyebrows instead of white ones (ENT) or none at all and another set of antennae instead (DIS)
 
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