Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

I get that each show is it’s own thing. But maintaining a consistent look when it comes to most things seems like it would be a no doubter.

it wasn’t hard when they had the TNG/DS9 and TNG Movies/DS9/Voyager overlaps. And they were doing 26 episodes a season with probably around the same budget Disco or Picard get for 10-13.

oh, I’m sure they know a part of the fan base has problems with them constantly changing things up…they just don’t care.

 

what do you call thinning protrusions then? XD

 

Horns.

 

alien brows.

 

Heh. "Only ship in the quadrant" indicates scarcity.

 

Always hated how that line was used so frequently as a contrivance to get a hero ship to go do something.

 

There's no bad blood, just people with different ideas about the Trek universe. For example, Picard season 2/3 artist Doug Drexler said on Facebook he doesn't like Discovery and considers it an alternate universe to TOS, but that Picard is a direct continuation of TOS/TNG's universe. Of course, the show itself depicts the SNW Enterprise in season 1 and Disco S4 directly references and reuses the Golem synth body concept from PIC S1 and (despite the obvious visual/tech upgrades) obviously intends them to be the same world.

And as for replicators, a difference that makes no difference is no difference. Whatever they call it in TOS vs TNG, it's the same thing. Like when people got upset they used "away team" in ST'09 instead of "landing party"

 

They still call it a synthesizer in most of the actual dialogue though. So another a disconnect from the writers and art team.

They still have sliding doors, they're just transparent. The redesign also kept the card slot.
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1533858254605807616

SNW also has a new or modified DSC Tellerite design
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1545845411231010816
No tusks, and three fingers like in TOS.

 

Indeed. There is this idea of a strict literalism in language that isn't used in real life that must be applied in Trek. Except, language doesn't work that way.

 

a brow of only skin without hair that extends from the head... ...is not a brow.

 

No, the Picard Tellarite in the news crew’s makeup actually differed significantly from the Discovery Tellarite makeup. The Discovery Tellarites have a typically piglike nose, like the TOS Tellarites, but squarer. The Picard Tellarites’ nostrils have a completely different shape, and the chin is bumpier, almost like a second pair of tusks is about to emerge. The Discovery Tellarites have very wrinkled and textured neck prosthetics. The Picard Tellarites have fairly smooth (but wide) necks with a single black ridge down the front. Luckily it seems that Prodigy is going to reconcile all the Tellarite designs. According to Aaron J Watkle Tellarites have a few subspecies and have considerable variation within each subspecies. He has confirmed via Twitter that the Tellarite Doctor Noum on the Dauntless crew is the same subspecies as the Discovery Tellarites (slightly different nose, but that’s in-subspecies variation) while Jankom Pog is part of a different subspecies. And all Tellarite looks are canon. Lower Decks also showed a Discovery or Picard (animation style makes it harder to pin down) Style Tellarite in Season 2 so at least an effort is being made with the Tellarites to reconcile stuff. There’s also little details and nods like Cadet Gorev from Discovery having purplish pinkish highlights in his hair like Jankom Pog, clearly a nod to Prodigy and a sign there is some behind the scenes communication between the shows. But stuff like the Ferengi and the Gorn is what screams bad blood because the SNW writers KNEW that Lower Decks already showed us Gorn. Although I’m HOPING that they will officially clarify that they are separate species or an engineered variant. (It appears that they are taking a genetically engineered angle with the Gorn on SNW, with all their unlikely adaptations. Since they are pulling heavily from Alien’s Xenomorphs, they are likely aware that the Xenomorphs are revealed to be genetically engineered as bioweapons in the Alien prequels.

 

I think the three fingered Tellarite fits with Aaron J Watke’s statements about showing that the Tellarite designs all coexist. The other shows may be beginning to coordinate with Prodigy by showing multiple vairities of Tellarite coexisting. The Tellarite from SNW may be from the TOS Tellarite subspecies. The image is blurry, but it looks as if this Tellarite has at least partially sunken eyes. Perhaps this Tellarite is a mix or medium between the TOS sunken eyes variety (Journey to Babel) and the TOS variety with regular eyes (Whom Gods Destroy). Perhaps this Tellarite belongs to the same subspecies as Jankom Pog…I know the team behind Prodigy has stated many times that they are constantly talking to people working on the other shows so… it’s not far fetched.

 

No, it doesn't. It says we are artists and creative people who wanted to do something slightly different than before.

Must to the consternation of fans everywhere who want a preserved singular vision.

 

Of course not. It doesn't matter. What matters is that they put on the best-looking shows they can within the context of what they think is important about Star Trek. A few people care too much about the trivial details that would add up to perfectly unobjectionable visual continuity with shows made thirty or fifty years ago, or shows being run by other people under the same umbrella, but not enough to let themselves be limited by it.

 

Maybe. Or maybe the series finale will end with the Enterprise badly damaged but victorious in some kind of cathartic battle, Pike promoted to fleet captain and accepting his fate as he turns command over to James T. Kirk, they talk about the Enterprise undergoing a refit -- and then the final shot is the USS Enterprise as it appeared in TOS.

Lots of possibilities!

TNG, DS9, and VOY had contradictions between each other of the sort you listed, too.

Usually it's not an indication of bad blood. It's an indication of busy professionals with slightly different creative visions who are all trying to make a production deadline.

Also, I imagine that the differences in production processes play a part these days. When it was TNG & DS9 or DS9 & VOY, the writing and production staffs were all based on the same lot, working the same basic shooting schedule. Whereas right now: the writers' rooms and PIC production are based in L.A.; the DIS and SNW productions are in Toronto; the shooting schedules don't always overlap because the shows air more or less consecutively rather than simultaneously; and the production time for animated shows like LD and PROD are usually completely different from the production time for live-action shows. So that probably makes coordination harder on the modern shows than it was in the Berman era.

Edited to add: Oh yeah, and COVID restrictions are still at play that reduce the number of people allowed onto the sets. That's almost certainly also a factor that complicates coordination. End edit.

That's not bad blood. The first two are just tips of the hat to TOS, and the second is SNW wanting to free its creativity for a modern reinterpretation of the Gorn concept. It's no worse than the ENT Gorn also looking distinctly different from the TOS Gorn.

Those changes in DIS are incredibly minor -- on par with the change between Bajoran makeup as featured in TNG S5 and DS9 S1.

It's almost like there's a lot of diversity in the Tellarite species or something.

They probably wanted to use visual shorthand for an audience mostly familiar with the TNG-style "Northern" Romulans.

No more a contradiction than showing both the TOS and TMP versions of the Constitution class.

No, it's not. War is concerning. Human suffering is concerning. Inconsequential contradictions between minutiae on a few TV shows is perfectly normal.

"This much?" These are all very minor contradictions -- and when it's an illegible set label, I consider that more a "contradiction" than a contradiction -- that are on par with the contradictions that crept into production during the Berman era.

I think you just answered your own question there.

Maybe. Or maybe Alex Kurtzman values creative freedom over aesthetic consistency. Both are valid creative choices. Every production of West Side Story doesn't have to replicate Jerome Robbins's choreography, to make a comparison.

 

I just want to like all of this multiple times.

It's amazing to me the amount of assumptions made around how different production teams must view each other or the source material and how it automatically gets lumped under contempt and hostility.

 

I don't expect an exact replica of the TOS Enterprise to ever be shown, but I wouldn't mind if at some point it gets much closer than what we have now.

 

They also look nothing like antennae.

 

No technical reason that the Enterprise should not look like the TOS version by ~2264.

 

No, but there's a real life reason. it's not the 1960s.