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THE ORVILLE Season Two...

Their cultural references so far, seem to stop at the year 2000ish.

I really think that humanity went digital at some point, everything was wiped by accident or misadventure, and the year 2000ish was the last good backup that was made of the people of Earth, which is why no one talks about the last 500 years, since Seinfeld was cancelled.
 
Their cultural references so far, seem to stop at the year 2000ish.

I really think that humanity went digital at some point, everything was wiped by accident or misadventure, and the year 2000ish was the last good backup that was made of the people of Earth, which is why no one talks about the last 500 years, since Seinfeld was cancelled.

Nothing could follow Seinfeld, so they gave up.
 
Orville's version of idealism is one where social problems have been solved, but humans have not evolved.
Because how dare a sci-fi show have characters with some actual humanity too them. It's so much better when they have sticks up their asses talking down to aliens about the superiority of the human condition.
And apparently one where rape is not considered a big deal.
It isn't saying rape isn't a big deal. The ones involved were under the influence of alien pheromones, and therefore not responsible for their actions.

Of course, even if it were saying rape isn't a big deal, would that surprise you in a Seth MacFarlane show? One of the more popular Family Guy supporting characters (who MacFarlane does the voice of) is a serial rapist.
 
To the extent that TNG was good storytelling, it was in spite of Roddenberry's nonsense about "evolved humans" - not because of it.
 
Of course, even if it were saying rape isn't a big deal, would that surprise you in a Seth MacFarlane show? One of the more popular Family Guy supporting characters (who MacFarlane does the voice of) is a serial rapist.
In that instance it is very Star Trek.
 
Just as an FYI non-subscribers only get the first paragraph and a tiny bit of the second.
 
Because how dare a sci-fi show have characters with some actual humanity too them. It's so much better when they have sticks up their asses talking down to aliens about the superiority of the human condition.

It isn't saying rape isn't a big deal. The ones involved were under the influence of alien pheromones, and therefore not responsible for their actions.

Of course, even if it were saying rape isn't a big deal, would that surprise you in a Seth MacFarlane show? One of the more popular Family Guy supporting characters (who MacFarlane does the voice of) is a serial rapist.
Who else but Quagmire?!
 
Who else but Quagmire?!

If they let him grow up, keep your eye on Cleveland Brown Jr.

What about Lt Ilia from the Motionless Picture?

"My oath of Celibacy is on record".

The novel said that humans get too attached and go insane, but there could be more to it.

There was a throw away line in the Dorulio episode before it got rapey just talking about the infidelity "it's bad manners to turn down sex in my culture."

It's also chemically impossible to turn down sex during mating season, so that's maybe the point. If you're taught from infancy to always say yes to sex, you won't notice that you can't say no, and half the population (both genders) won't constantly be on trial for rape always.
 
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