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THE ORVILLE Season Two...

Episode, If the Stars Should Appear

Speaking of that, I think it would be cool to go back to some of these planets, like that one. Having a revelation basically opening up above you has to do wonders to a society. Same came be said about the planet that idolized Kelly.
 
But we've already seen them develop into an advanced futuristic society which no longer practices religious beliefs.

That is true. That's probably the closest we've gotten to returning to a planet visited in a prior episode. In that sense it was like Voyager's Blink of an Eye, only this one I thought was written slightly better.
 
I think that was the most "Roddenberry' Vision" episode. That we will make it, we will take our lumps along the way, but we make it.

Reading this made me realize what is wrong with the Star Trek franchise. Roddenberry had set up this premise in which humans have "evolved" into this near ideal society. And I doubt very much that humans can evolve to such an ideal state within a period of 200 to 300 years. Not humans. I had hoped that "The Orville" would dismiss such idealism and show how humans continue to struggle with intolerance and their personal demons that go beyond minor personality quirks. Instead, it seemed to be hellbent upon copying Trek, especially "Next Generation" . . . but with humor. I can think of two or three Trek shows that are a lot more willing to show the uglier side of humanity in the future.

And if someone tells me that humor is what make this show so great, I'm going to throw up.
 
Reading this made me realize what is wrong with the Star Trek franchise. Roddenberry had set up this premise in which humans have "evolved" into this near ideal society. And I doubt very much that humans can evolve to such an ideal state within a period of 200 to 300 years. Not humans. I had hoped that "The Orville" would dismiss such idealism and show how humans continue to struggle with intolerance and their personal demons that go beyond minor personality quirks. Instead, it seemed to be hellbent upon copying Trek, especially "Next Generation" . . . but with humor. I can think of two or three Trek shows that are a lot more willing to show the uglier side of humanity in the future.

Ideal state? I don't think the humans of The Orville have reached an ideal state you're confusing an episode with the structure of the show itself. In the universe, humanity still has its collective issues, people overworking, adultery and so on. The episode I'm talking about "Mad Idolatry" simply shows that we (humanity) eventually get where we need to go, it is an allegory about us humans in the here-and-now.
 
The episode I'm talking about "Mad Idolatry" simply shows that we (humanity) eventually get where we need to go, it is an allegory about us humans in the here-and-now.

That sounds like idealism to me.
 
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