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THE ORVILLE Season Two...

A movie or show that is aims to be an epic but comes off as more clever than it really is. That will more often than not come off as soap operatic, dour and joyless. That's pretty much how I'd define melodrama.
 
A movie or show that is aims to be an epic but comes off as more clever than it really is. That will more often than not come off as soap operatic, dour and joyless. That's pretty much how I'd define melodrama.
I tend to define as being over the top stories with perfect square jawed heroes, distressed damsels and vile villains. Dour and joyless is not something I associate with the phrase. Neither is epic. Soap operatic, I'll give you.
 
Reading this made me realize what is wrong with the Star Trek franchise. Roddenberry had set up this premise in which humans have "evolved" into this near ideal society. And I doubt very much that humans can evolve to such an ideal state within a period of 200 to 300 years. Not humans. I had hoped that "The Orville" would dismiss such idealism and show how humans continue to struggle with intolerance and their personal demons that go beyond minor personality quirks. Instead, it seemed to be hellbent upon copying Trek, especially "Next Generation" . . . but with humor. I can think of two or three Trek shows that are a lot more willing to show the uglier side of humanity in the future.

And if someone tells me that humor is what make this show so great, I'm going to throw up.
I thought it was pretty clear even from the trailers and marketing that The Orville was not going to be that kind of show.
 
I actually think "Orville's" idealism is actually more important in these times right now than yet another gritty edgy "Battlestar Galatica." I mean I love gritty and edgy stuff. I like "Black Mirror" and "Handmaids Tale" and stuff like that as much as the next person but people do need a break from it. LIfe is stressful enough to constantly be dealing with cynicism in all of it's entertainment, and I am a cynic. I think the world as we know it is going to be over in 20 to 30 years and even I know that you still need a break from it. I once binged the first two seasons of "True Detective" over a weekend. It was a great and well made show but, boy was it a depressing 2 days. It's one of the reasons why during the day I always try to watch a Weird Al video or something funny on "Youtube." I also do it right before I go to sleep. I don't want to go to sleep with some of the crap going on in the world or people do on my mind before I sleep.

Jason
 
Season 2 is looking bigger and more epic than the first season. Very excited!

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I had hoped that "The Orville" would dismiss such idealism and show how humans continue to struggle with intolerance and their personal demons that go beyond minor personality quirks.
The Orville does do that, especially with Mercer. He is a man with a lot of potential but it goes sideways the moment his wife cheated on him. And despite accepting her as his first officer he still struggles with that feeling.

I also would highly recommend watching (or rewatching) the episode "Krill" to see more struggles.

Orville humanity has not felt perfect to me.
 
The characters in The Orville are definitely much, much closer to today's imperfect people than they are to the perfect "more evolved" characters in the Star Treks. That's part of what I love about so much about it.
This is one of my favorite scenes from the entire season, and it was not the kind of behavior we saw from the Trek characters.
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Orville's version of idealism is one where social problems have been solved, but humans have not evolved. (And apparently one where rape is not considered a big deal.)
 
Orville's version of idealism is one where social problems have been solved, but humans have not evolved. (And apparently one where rape is not considered a big deal.)

The Mad Titan's brother Starfox, originally an 80s character, who has a similar powerset as Darulio, to lull sexual inhibition, was put on trial for rape in the pages of (Dan Slott's) She-Hulk a decade ago, for using his mind whammy powers to pick up Earth Girl's in singles bars.

It's been a while, but I think that he was found guilty?
 
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