Which is?I think I'm using it in the correct manner.
Which is?I think I'm using it in the correct manner.
I tend to define as being over the top stories with perfect square jawed heroes, distressed damsels and vile villains. Dour and joyless is not something I associate with the phrase. Neither is epic. Soap operatic, I'll give you.A movie or show that is aims to be an epic but comes off as more clever than it really is. That will more often than not come off as soap operatic, dour and joyless. That's pretty much how I'd define melodrama.
I thought it was pretty clear even from the trailers and marketing that The Orville was not going to be that kind of show.Reading this made me realize what is wrong with the Star Trek franchise. Roddenberry had set up this premise in which humans have "evolved" into this near ideal society. And I doubt very much that humans can evolve to such an ideal state within a period of 200 to 300 years. Not humans. I had hoped that "The Orville" would dismiss such idealism and show how humans continue to struggle with intolerance and their personal demons that go beyond minor personality quirks. Instead, it seemed to be hellbent upon copying Trek, especially "Next Generation" . . . but with humor. I can think of two or three Trek shows that are a lot more willing to show the uglier side of humanity in the future.
And if someone tells me that humor is what make this show so great, I'm going to throw up.
And if someone tells me that humor is what make this show so great, I'm going to throw up.
Oh, dear god! How did that get past the censors?That sounds like idealism to me.
I've been hearing that my whole life.I think the world as we know it is going to be over in 20 to 30 years
The Orville does do that, especially with Mercer. He is a man with a lot of potential but it goes sideways the moment his wife cheated on him. And despite accepting her as his first officer he still struggles with that feeling.I had hoped that "The Orville" would dismiss such idealism and show how humans continue to struggle with intolerance and their personal demons that go beyond minor personality quirks.
Yeah like when Gordon and Malloy feed Bortus a piece of Yaphet. That's some highly evolved 25th century human perfection right there. /sarcasm.![]()
Apparently I'm still not awake yet.Gordon is Malloy, you mean LaMarr.![]()
Yeah, that was unpleasant.Yeah like when Gordon and LaMarr feed Bortus a piece of Yaphet. That's some highly evolved 25th century human perfection right there. /sarcasm.![]()
Orville's version of idealism is one where social problems have been solved, but humans have not evolved. (And apparently one where rape is not considered a big deal.)
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