THE ORVILLE Season Two...

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  1. Enterprise is Great

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    Best Buy stopped selling CDs but they're still continuing to sell vinyl records.
     
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  2. Guy Gardener

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    Wow. That is futuristic.
     
  3. RJDiogenes

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    I want a vinyl drive for my PC.
     
  4. Ar-Pharazon

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    My last desktop did....sort of. It had an audio I/O bay with RCA jacks (among other types) and I plugged my turntable in via a pre-amp. Ripped quite a bit of rare vinyl that way.
     
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  5. Reyman

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    The show looks great on the Fox site in 720p.

    I really hope we get it in 4K or at least blu-ray as it would look incredible, especially an episode like PRIMAL URGES.
     
  6. The Wormhole

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    20th Century Fox and dramatically scaling back on TV shows released on Blu-ray. I wouldn't expect a 4K release ever.
     
  7. Tuskin38

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    So TrekYards had Pierre Drolet on a couple weeks back, he’s part of the Orville 3D modelling team. According to him, the physical model of the Orville was actually built first, before any 3D model. They scanned it in to the computer, but that didn’t turn out well so he rebuilt it from scratch.

    I thought it was interesting that a modern TV series made the physical model first.

    Pierre has also worked on NuBSG and Star Trek productions including Discovery before CBS got rid of their internal VFX team, he modelled most of the Fed ships seen in season 1.
     
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    Actually, I think they make turntables with USB ports these days, which I suppose is the equivalent of a vinyl drive. I wonder if it's possible to write data to a vinyl record.
     
  9. Sean_McCormick

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    Why not? Back in the 80ies casette tapes were not uncommon for home computers (notably the C 64). The way there were used (the data from the casette was loaded into memory in one (very long) go) should equally be possible with an LP as Read-only medium, i don't know who would want to use it that way, but it is possible in theory.
     
  10. Ar-Pharazon

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    They made them then too, but I already had the turntable and the computer set-up. As far as writing, like @Sean_McCormick said you'd need a record recorder/maker.
     
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    There was an article I'd read recently that even movies are still edited in 2K --> https://referencehometheater.com/2013/commentary/4k-calculator/

    So a true 4K isn't there now unless the source material is 100% film scanned in digitally at 4k. My guess is "Orville" is being tested for home video sales and a special release may come out later. It's also in the realm of a sitcom, a genre more associated with DVD and not blu-ray as well. If "Orville" sells well then easily the higher-end releases would follow and they seem to think "Orville" stands a chance. I'm just happy to see it, so many shows don't get the light of day.

    Seems illogical. Vinyl is larger, has lesser dynamic range and the discs wear out far more quickly, and any perceived tonal depth coming from the old analog equipment of the time. Not to mention all CDs and vinyl media come from the identical master - which had been transferred from 30ips reel tapes (or whatever master medium existed) and cleaned up and stored digitally since then because the original tapes will have degraded over time and would eventually become unplayable if not irreparable...

    Ideally we'd have a low compression streaming and download service (AAC 320 or a newer, superior compression standard since uncompressed audio alone is huge and even nominal compression levels don't adversely impact audio quality too much (a lot of what's tossed out is well beyond human auditory capability, unless one is age 2 and no 2 year-old is going to appreciate the tonal and lyrical content and any claim of hearing higher wavelengths doesn't survive long past age 2 to begin with and don't listen to any kid who says they can hear deer whistles but I digress) - so toodles to MP3 altogether), incentives for people who own music collections already, and not have to dink with CDs or anything else. (I'm also looking forward to the day when 1080p streaming outperforms a blu-ray disc... and keep in mind some 4k TV sets have HDR and other features that help compensate for the megapixel myth...)
     
  12. Cutie McWhiskers

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    The theory isn't far off from practice (CD-RW technology): A vinyl record, like a CD-RW, has pitted grooves. The issue is to erase the grooves (reformat) and then re-apply the new groovy sequence (sorry for the pun). That makes vinyl less than viable as a solution in of itself, not to mention scratch risks, storage size limitations, and so on. And I imagine burning vinyl produces a smell that's not going to be healthy... The tools would also be far more expensive, even back in the day... and while modern day services will make vinyl records from files you can send over from CD or USB or whatever, pardon me while I go to the kitchen to laugh for 30 minutes while my cats stare at me like I'm a weirdo...

    ...k, I'm back. The regular limitations of vinyl with scratches, lesser dynamic range, etc, etc, all still apply.
     
  13. The Wormhole

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    It's the Hipsters. They're all about vinyl and kale. And those disgusting flavoured teas.
     
  14. RJDiogenes

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    That's what I was thinking. As long as you had the means to write and read in the same format, any data storage medium should work.

    Presumably to rip a vinyl record, all you really need is a cable that can connect the speaker output to the microphone jack-- but you'd have to record in real time.

    That's another thing I was wondering-- what the storage capacity of vinyl would be.

    Are there self-publishing services available for vinyl, like there are for books and digital media?
     
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  15. Guy Gardener

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    The Hipsters are dying out, and mostly gone.
     
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    That's cool. They even have colored vinyl and picture discs. It's expensive, though-- I guess POD doesn't work for that format. :rommie:
     
  18. Jayson1

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    Forget all these backward music formats. You haven't heard "Stairway to Heaven" until you heard it recorded on a cassette tape that was in a cassette recorder placed up next to a FM radio that just happens to be playing that song for it to be recorded. Only a true music lover knows what I am talking about. These other things are for the mainstream normies who don't get the nuance of music! It's like so far out to hear the background sounds of passing by car or your sisters playing with their toys or snippets of a old "Barney MIller" playing on the family tv sort of heard in the background!:)


    Jason
     
  19. Noname Given

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    Cassette PFFFFT! You haven't heard it properly until you've heard it in your car on an 8-Track player.

    (Google that, Millennials :angel:)
     
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  20. Ar-Pharazon

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    If you have one of those self-contained record players, with an AM/FM radio say, then yeah, it already has an amp and you could go from speaker jacks to computer.

    My turntable is one that went with a component system and has no built in amplification. It would have plugged into the amp unit. So I bought a small pre-amp off ebay to do the same thing.

    With some apps, you could do a side at a time, then edit the single file into tracks, or do like I did and stop the recording process, lift the tone-arm, then repeat for each track.