Not kill off Jadzia. If she had to die, then let her die sometime during season 7.
The One Thing You Could Change...
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A bit more planning time for the Emissary stuff. So they could have some prophecies in the first seasons, that would be important for the later seasons and so, the end of this storyline could be more epic because of a more powerful build-up...
Totally agree. Pretty much any Trek holo-episode set in a 20th century type setting is a skip for me. Even most of the time travel ones are.
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Agree with this too. If she had to go, simply replacing her with another attractive female Dax seemed lazy and it wasn't fair to the new character, either.
Lose a lot of the filler stuff in Season 7 (Like Prodigal Daughter) and end the War and then with 3 episodes left, try to get Bajor to join the Federation. I also wouldn't have made Sisko a Prophet.
I am actually in what I recognise as a minority in that I thought the show took a nosedive in quality in season 6/7. I much prefer the first four or five seasons.
So narrowing it down to just one thing to change is a struggle as there is plenty. Less domination of the focus on the war arc? Jadzia? Making Alexander a goofball? Vic Fontaine? Kira and Odo?
Ultimately, making Sisko "part prophet" and all that silliness from season 7 takes my top spot for one thing to change... but it had tough competition!!
So narrowing it down to just one thing to change is a struggle as there is plenty. Less domination of the focus on the war arc? Jadzia? Making Alexander a goofball? Vic Fontaine? Kira and Odo?
Ultimately, making Sisko "part prophet" and all that silliness from season 7 takes my top spot for one thing to change... but it had tough competition!!
The growing issue I was having with Jadzia from Season 4 until her death she was more of a Helmsman than a Science Officer; something greatly lost about the character in the 1st three seasons. I'd rather the character I once admired depart sooner than being this wiseass/ girlfriend for Worf. Ezri didn't have much character but I wouldn't mind seeing all of the useless traits Jadzia, and actress Terri Farrell, were fond of in the War seasons be implanted into Ezri, but make an effort in developing them so it feels like a natural progression for the character. A science officer to me is a valuable discipline for ship operations as helm suppose to be. You can't do both on the bridge, a specialist must be focused on one.
Ezri was a counselor, and I don't believe psychiatry is a specific discipline for Ship operations. So having her transition to a bridge discipline would be natural for me and still hold her title as counselor. Of course, it skies the limit in putting layers upon layers for a character like Ezri and the actress can make it interesting if the writers are invested in her, but with time as seen on DS9 she could've been a natural successor to Jadzia. Its just where would the writer's room genies go with her?
I didn't see a science officer as so important. Science to DS9 is secondary. The station is there (at first) to keep the Cardassians from coming back, and then to protect the wormhole. They have the Defiant, but she's not an exploration ship. No labs, doesn't have the endurance to go on a multi-week exploration mission even if they wanted to, no scientific staff. Once the war started, they were doing even less science. Jadzia did what science there was, plus working with O'Brien on technical challenges, but that was not a very full role. Most of the time she was just another Ops or Bridge officer.
A counselor during wartime is certainly someone they would want around. Therapy for Garrick and Nog's PTSD alone would fill her appointment books. And O'Brien probably continued to need a lot of therapy for years following "Hard Time", even though they never showed it. I bet he'd rather talk to Ezri than Bashir.
A counselor during wartime is certainly someone they would want around. Therapy for Garrick and Nog's PTSD alone would fill her appointment books. And O'Brien probably continued to need a lot of therapy for years following "Hard Time", even though they never showed it. I bet he'd rather talk to Ezri than Bashir.
Or put all Bajoran Militia personnel in the new style uniforms.
Jadzia should either have had a meaningful death instead of being murdered by Dukat or been sent off to another post somewhere so we could occasionally hear about her or even had the occasional guest op from Terry.
Runner-up: No Vic. I didn't like Vegas stuff much, and I really disliked how the casual creation of a self-aware, sapient hologram was never really explored.
Runner-up: No Vic. I didn't like Vegas stuff much, and I really disliked how the casual creation of a self-aware, sapient hologram was never really explored.
What was puzzling about her death and outcome was the lack of thought and conclusion to it. Especially in a previous episode the crew had a noble and honorable ceremony for a character who was stuck on a planet who our heroes barely knew, I would've gladly traded that outcome than Sisko prepping food like a lackey in his daddy's restaurant.
Surely we can all agree that the intention in how he was portrayed certainly seemed to be that he was somewhat self-aware - that he was something more than your 'ordinary' holodeck character?
Certainly he seemed to be depicted as being on par with The Doctor's level of sentience.
Certainly he seemed to be depicted as being on par with The Doctor's level of sentience.
Have both Ro and Kira in the show. I know if Michelle Forbes said yes we wouldn't have Kira, but that's unacceptable, so let's keep both.
Two different sides of the Bajoran spectrum. An atheist who didn't reconsider her native faith until a near death experience, who spent the Occupation in Federation safety, and a devout believer who will begrudge her for not fighting for her people on her home planet and think her a heretic. Kira would probably tell Ro to have an orb experience. And she'd approach the orb, then change her mind. Then it'd be a running thing until she finally does it. I wonder what she'd see.
I see Vic and somewhere in between the Doctor and other holograms. Vic is aware he's a hologram and he's aware of the outside world but he's still not really able to decide his own goals in life. The Doctor can choose to become a singer and leave. Vic still has no other desire than to run his holographic bar. If he could decide he doesn't want to run the bar anymore, he wants to become a marine biologist, then he'd be on the level of Doc.
Two different sides of the Bajoran spectrum. An atheist who didn't reconsider her native faith until a near death experience, who spent the Occupation in Federation safety, and a devout believer who will begrudge her for not fighting for her people on her home planet and think her a heretic. Kira would probably tell Ro to have an orb experience. And she'd approach the orb, then change her mind. Then it'd be a running thing until she finally does it. I wonder what she'd see.
I see Vic and somewhere in between the Doctor and other holograms. Vic is aware he's a hologram and he's aware of the outside world but he's still not really able to decide his own goals in life. The Doctor can choose to become a singer and leave. Vic still has no other desire than to run his holographic bar. If he could decide he doesn't want to run the bar anymore, he wants to become a marine biologist, then he'd be on the level of Doc.
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I'm not sure about the Doctor being able to change his goals in life. Did he ever have a desire to do something other than treat that ungrateful crew on Voyager? As his life's work, not just as a hobby.
It would have been fun to see Ro and Kira together. Ro might be interested in hearing about Bajor during the occupation, because all she heard was via the Cardassian propaganda service.
It would have been fun to see Ro and Kira together. Ro might be interested in hearing about Bajor during the occupation, because all she heard was via the Cardassian propaganda service.
I like both characters a lot, but that said I think Ro AND Kira would be overkill. Granted one fought in the Occupation and one didn't, but I think there's still a lot of crossover in the two characters.
I really don't. Vic (to me) was another puppet of the computer that ran the holosuites. He (it?) was a interactive character in a adaptable overall story the people could go in and experience.
Bashir could walk into the holosuite and Vic would just be finishing a set and they would sit down for a drink, Vic would tell a story.
Half an hour later O'Brien would walk into the holosuite and Vic would just be finishing the same set and they would sit down for a drink, and Vic would tell the same story or a different one.
Vic could do this over and over with multiple people and not find it odd in the least, because when it comes right down to it Vic is a wind-up toy.
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Everyone will interpret things differently I suppose.
I took it as a given that the way he was portrayed, aware as he was that he existed a holosuite character and aware of the goings on in the 'real' world etc clearly marked him out as being in a different category to the likes of the vikings from VOY's Beowulf program who had no such awareness.
To me it seemed evident that the writers chose to depict him in the same vein as Moriarty or The Doctor - holograms/characters who were aware of what they were and able to comprehend the outside world.
