The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 30, 2009.


Grade the movie...

  1. Excellent

    707 vote(s)
  2. Above Average

    213 vote(s)
  3. Average

    84 vote(s)
  4. Below Average

    46 vote(s)
  5. Poor

    77 vote(s)
  1. M.Robison

    M.Robison Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    May 18, 2009
    Off to see the Grand Nagus..
    Sadly, there are few if any good sci-fi shows on anymore. I figure if the movie was successful in gathering a new generation of fans, perhaps a new series would be a refreshing change to what mostly dominates tv now, crime shows and reality shows ect.

    Sometimes you can capture lightning in a bottle when you least expect it, kinda like when they didnt expect TNG to get off the ground for more than a season or two, and we got 7 and two more spin-off shows to boot (3 if you count Enterprise.)

    I have my fingers crossed....:techman:
  2. Trek Bob

    Trek Bob Ensign Newbie

    May 10, 2009
    You know, at first I was bothered by the changes they made in the timeline, etc. but maybe you're right. Its the passing of the torch. They're doing the same thing they did when it was time to move onto TNG. It was hard but eventually we grew used to it and even began to enjoy it. The only thing I can truly say I dont like has to do with the new Spock. They have to keep him from sounding like one of the Cone Heads from the old Saturday Night Lives. Not in the sound of his voice but in what he says.
  3. pookha

    pookha Admiral Admiral

    Dec 26, 2002
    actually to me both are grounded in tos.

    while spock had yes issues dealing with his human half he also was very loyal to his mother even though he wasnt talking to his father like a father for a long time we do know spock had gone back home to see his mother.

    and frankly the scene with young spock is pretty close to one we see in yesteryear..

    were young spock dosnt respond to the taunts of the vulcan children until..
    that is when young spock tried to attack them.

    as for sarek .. well go and watch the end of journey to babel sometimes.
    i wasnt suprised at all by sarek's admission after that.

    really the casting of sarek was one of the few i think they miscast.
  4. optimus2861

    optimus2861 Commodore Commodore

    Mar 15, 2001
    Halifax, NS
    Wow, my account still works :)

    This movie is the shot in the arm that Star Trek has needed for about 10 years now. I saw it last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. This movie takes the risks that Star Trek has for too long refused to take; refused to resort to the reset button; gives us a great cast to move forward with; and is just plain damn fun to watch. The "send off", so to speak, from Leonard Nimoy is the icing on the cake; a wonderful final appearance.

    An "Excellent" vote from me, no qualifications. More, please!
  5. Amaris

    Amaris Abiding Eos Premium Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    As of this morning on Rotten



  6. Jax

    Jax Admiral Admiral

    I feel the need to celebrate the success of TREK with all the women of TREK paint optional ;)
  7. Orac Zen

    Orac Zen Mischief Manager Super Moderator

    Mar 14, 2000
    *** permabans M'Sharak *** :mad:

    That's a character they can skip. :p

    Agreed. I thought Cross was awful, but to each their own. :bolian:
  8. Minuialeth

    Minuialeth Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    May 11, 2009
    Normandy, France
    "Yesteryear" is part of the animated series, right? I hadn't heard about it until last week when I started to read posts here.
    That's neat that they sort of included a bit of it in the movie.

    As for "Journey to Babel", I can't wait to rewatch it once I have the third season DVDs. I haven't watched it in 20 years and I remember it was one of my fav episodes.
    That's why I've hesitated a bit before posting something concerning TOS: my memories of events are somewhat hazy and I often check facts before posting. But you can't check the feelings you had watching an episode on a website.
    Thanks for enlighting me, I had a memory of a colder Sarek (esp. from "Journey to Babel") and just couldn't picture him having that attitude with Spock in TOS.
    Btw, I had the nice surprise to see Mark Lenard playing a Romulan Commander in "Balance of Terror" :) Yep, that's how far I am in the re-watching of the show :(
  9. Bobatiel

    Bobatiel Commodore Commodore

    Feb 11, 2000
    Journey To Babel is second season, not third, so you'll get to it sooner than expected. :)

  10. Sky

    Sky Captain Captain

    Feb 9, 2009
    My experience is completely opposite from yours. I watched it twice and after the second time my opinion of it went from "above average" to "meh".
  11. pookha

    pookha Admiral Admiral

    Dec 26, 2002
    sarek appears very cold when he first comes aboard the ship in babel.
    but later he has a very tender scene with amanda while they are alone.
    though my favorite is the one at the end after his surgery.
    while he dosnt say it out loud it is pretty clear the reason he loved amanda
    was indeed because he loved her.

    cross just wasnt able to do what lenard was able to do..
    convey his feelings through his eyes while still evoking a passive vulcan manner otherwise.

    sarek and amanda
  12. Ayelbourne

    Ayelbourne Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Apr 25, 2005
    Kirk: "Would you mind not finger fucking in public? It's offensive."
  13. Lordsuhn

    Lordsuhn Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jun 13, 2002
    Indianapolis, IN USA
    I haven't posted here in years. But this movie has brought me back. I was very impressed with the casting , the set designs, the costumes. The directing was also good. The story itself, not so much, but as a whole I was very satisfied. I hope to see more of this cast. Too bad they can't do a new series with them . . . or can they??
  14. Neopeius

    Neopeius Admiral Admiral

    Nov 3, 2001
    OSF Headquarters
    "You must choose which path you will take: Limey or Yank."
  15. jamestyler

    jamestyler Commodore Commodore

    Nov 26, 2008
    Glasgow, Scotland
    I say green paint essential ;)

    I've been keeping an eye on the reviews in other forums I visit and it's positive from all angles. Only one negative review... and that guy hates everything.
  16. Minuialeth

    Minuialeth Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    May 11, 2009
    Normandy, France
    *headdesk* And I knew it when I posted!
    Thanks for the pics pookha and Bobatiel :)

    I've reread what I've posted about Sarek before and I've realised that maybe I didn't express myself well. You could see that Sarek loved Amanda in TOS (okay, not at first) but I just couldn't imagine him telling that to Prime Spock or telling him to embrace his emotions. NuSarek didn't seem that different at the beginning (with him telling Spock he married his mother because it was logical) but then he lost both his planet and his wife. I suppose that if the same thing had happened to Prime Sarek, he could have had the same reaction.

    Listening to the score as I post :)
  17. Bobatiel

    Bobatiel Commodore Commodore

    Feb 11, 2000
    I thought you expressed yourself perfectly the first time, and I concur with your view
  18. ST-One

    ST-One Vice Admiral

    Oct 28, 2004
    Germany - with UHC since the early 1900s
    I just got back from seeing the film with a friend of the family. See's 67 and already likes to watch TOS and TNG.
    It was a bit of an embarrassment for me to have her invited to watch 'Angels and Demons' last Saturday - so I invited her for today to see Star Trek with me ;).
    And she really liked it. She's even considering to see it again. And she's going to spread the word to her son and his girlfriend also :D

    One thing she said I found really funny (considering all the 'canon-violation'-cries around here); she said that she liked the fact that this film didn't wipe away the old Trek, that this new version and the old version can live side by side (not her exact words - but something to that effect).

    Casual fans like her and a few of my friends, with whom I've watched the film on opening-weekend, have a better understanding of what this film tries to accomplish than all the canonistas here combined.
  19. pookha

    pookha Admiral Admiral

    Dec 26, 2002

    yeah i agree that it would have been something like the sudden loss of amanda for sarek to so openly admit it to his son.
    but i still think it shows in babel.

    babel is one of my favorite episodes especially that end scene.
    bones gets the last word.
  20. America99

    America99 Captain Captain

    Sep 14, 2003
    I finally got to go see the Abrams movie. I did like the movie for what it was, an alternate timeline story. I especially liked Spock's story as it more clearly defined Spock's background as half vulcan and half human.

    Kirk's history was changed as a result of this being an alternate timeline. I didn't even have a problem with the actors not looking at all like the original characters because in tis timeline, Kirk is probably not the exact same Kirk in the original timeline. In the original timeline, Kirk's family moved to a colony where Kirk has a brother named Sam. Obviously, because of the change in circumstances, Kirk never has a brother.

    I do have a slight problem with no Nurse Chapel. Hopefully, by the next movie, they will have someone lined up to play her.

    As I said before, I liked it for what it was.