Dude. It's Kirk and Spock.
The lack of realism in star trek is seriously insulting
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Dude. It's Kirk and Spock.
Sexy Human
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I see your point... but its all just a bit over the top. A little too much in all seriousness.
Um, do you watch a lot of movies or TV shows? Because the hero(es) do that sort of thing all the time. James Bond. Indiana Jones. Han and Luke. Batman. Doctor Who.
Actually it's alternate universe nu-Kirk and nu-Spock, please don't confuse them with the real universe Kirk and Spock.
They're as real as this thread, anyway.None of them are real.
None of them are real.
Take that back!
And wouldn't ya know, when I was driving through Los Alamos a few weekends ago, I could've sworn I saw something that looked an awful lot like a moon-sized planet killer.
Light sabers have to go, for starters.... then that Death Star thing needs to be scaled down somewhat.... Darth Vader needs to be confined to a hospital bed for the whole trilogy owing to his horrific injuries.... none of that Force stuff.... none of those giant robot camels....
But I love the giant robot camels. Can't we just have a prototype?
While maybe not totatlly realestic, is not implausable. It was after all a mining ship not a military vessel. So perhaps most of the crew did not have combat training.
Not necessarily on Doctor Who - at least not the Classic Series. Can you name all the Companions who died? They didn't die peacefully of old age, either. They died violently.
First Doctor: Sara Kingdom, Bret Vyon, Katarina (I include Bret Vyon as a courtesy, since he was played by Nicholas Courtney, who went on to play Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart)
Fourth Doctor: Romana I (there has been some controversy as to just why the character regenerated - of course IRL it was because a different actress played the character; however, it can be speculated that Romana's regeneration from Mary Tamm to Lalla Ward happened because Mary Tamm's Romana was physically tortured in the final episode she appeared in, "The Armageddon Factor")
Fifth Doctor: Adric, Kamelion
Sixth Doctor: Peri (although we learn later that the Time Lords were able to save her, she still died a horrific death)
And given what we've been told about the Time War between Gallifrey and the Daleks, we can also assume that the Fourth Doctor's Companion, Leela, died in this war - since she stayed on Gallifrey in the episode "The Invasion of Time".
That's a lot of Doctor Who Companions who didn't make it out alive at the end of their characters' runs...
Peri didn't die. The Valeyard misrpresented the facts to make it look like she died, which the Doctor believed until the Master showed up and revealed she was still alive.
BBC considers the last companion to have died to have been Adric.
Then the BBC has overlooked Kamelion, who died in "Planet of Fire." That occurred a long time after "Earthshock."
Regarding realism... I mentioned in another thread: episodes like DS9: Homefront or TNG: Unification, and films like Nemesis would have greatly profited from more realism regarding the machinery that would be involved in events like these. But (probably for budget reasons) everything is reduced down to the size of a stage play. That creates a very abstract feeling.
In DS9: Homefront, one single person is in charge of the entire security system of Earth, for example. And all you see him doing is sitting at his desk looking at a screen, he has no group of people he delegates, nothing. You never see the reactions of people or the media to large scale events.
In Nemesis, the entire Romulan Senate is assassinated, but it's no big deal. Not even a HINT is given how the Romulan people reacted to this. It's just all about Picard and Shinzon, sitting in confined spaces. And in Unification, Sela seems to decide alone for herself that Vulcan needs to be invaded. And a force of 2000 troops would be enough to invade the ENTIRE PLANET.
It makes these episodes and films feel so weird.
I think for a realistic feeling, one would have to write the story for the 21st century, and recognize what would happen around the world in politics, economy, society and media during such an event, and then port it to the 24th century.
In DS9: Homefront, one single person is in charge of the entire security system of Earth, for example. And all you see him doing is sitting at his desk looking at a screen, he has no group of people he delegates, nothing. You never see the reactions of people or the media to large scale events.
In Nemesis, the entire Romulan Senate is assassinated, but it's no big deal. Not even a HINT is given how the Romulan people reacted to this. It's just all about Picard and Shinzon, sitting in confined spaces. And in Unification, Sela seems to decide alone for herself that Vulcan needs to be invaded. And a force of 2000 troops would be enough to invade the ENTIRE PLANET.
It makes these episodes and films feel so weird.
I think for a realistic feeling, one would have to write the story for the 21st century, and recognize what would happen around the world in politics, economy, society and media during such an event, and then port it to the 24th century.
That's a rather bigoted attitude on their part. It's like saying that K-9 wasn't really a Companion because he wasn't a "real" dog.
One thing (well more than one thing) that really took me out of the moment was when Admiral Layton was talking to the Federation President about declaring a state of emergency. The Admiral claim that he could mobilize every Starfleet officer on Earth and put them on the streets.
Anybody here have Google Earth on their computer?
We hear how short handed Starfleet is, certainly how short on ships they are. The number of Starfleet officers on Earth may have been in the hundreds of thousands - so what. We saw two or three beam on to the street just outside Joseph Sisko's restaurant. Layton didn't say Starfleet was to be put in charge of Earth troop, or to have Starfleet lead Earth police officers. Layton didn't say Starfleet protecting important installations, or protecting government building. , He said "The Streets."
He seem to be saying that putting Starfleet officers in the streets was going to protect Earth from invasion.
How in the hell was he going to do that?
He seem to be saying that putting Starfleet officers in the streets was going to protect Earth from invasion.
How in the hell was he going to do that?
That could have been just 'government talk' to keep the civilians from panicking.
