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Spoilers The Acolyte

Do people really hate The Acolyte that much? I've been enjoying it, and I thought most of the reviews I saw when it started were fairly positive.
Is it just more of the usual suspects not liking it for their usual reasons, or people actually being unhappy with the writing, directing, acting, ect.?

There's something suspicious about the total ratings numbers for The Acolyte. Scores aside, it's drawing way more reviews in total than it ought to be drawing.
 
That was bit of a nothing episode but at least we got some clarification on who the Sith guy is. He was someone his Sith master rejected and tried to kill him. That way he isn't a "proper" Sith but a outcast.
It means that the actual Sith will be hunting him as well if they know he's still alive.
Or he - or Osha - restarts the Sith order.
 
Or he - or Osha - restarts the Sith order.
I doubt that’s the case. That would be very dark for Disney. More likely she’s going to come to her senses and flee, and he’s going to be killed by the real Sith
 
I do like the way EU ideas are being recycled into canon.

And I've got a lot of sympathy for Qimir's POV. Ever since the prequels -- or KotOR, come to think of it -- I've been a bit bothered by how the Jedi approach cuts you off from so much of actual lived human experience. Imagine living without hate, or fear, or love. Wouldn't it... suck?
 
Dooku was swayed by a warped form of political idealism and wanting to rid the galaxy of corruption, political infighting and inefficiency. He fell to the Dark Side and even killed Master Yaddle, but it's not like he was a mustache-twirling bad guy cackling at a high pitch to all within earshot.
 
That was bit of a nothing episode but at least we got some clarification on who the Sith guy is. He was someone his Sith master rejected and tried to kill him. That way he isn't a "proper" Sith but a outcast.
It means that the actual Sith will be hunting him as well if they know he's still alive.
Oh it was his Sith master that tried to kill him, I thought it was his Jedi master, and I was wondering what would lead to a Jedi trying to kill their own Padawan.
This was definitely a much quieter episode than the last couple, but it was still good. It was interesting to get to see a bit more of The Stranger without the mask or the Qimir identity.
I'm glad they were so quick to have Sol realize Mae was with him, and not Osha. It would have made him look like pretty clueless if they dragged that out to long.
 
We don't know yet who it was that gave Qimir that scar. I do think it's interesting that they revealed that and also showcased Vernestra's lightsaber whip in the same episode. Maybe she wants to keep the High Council from finding out about this incident for more than one reason.
 
What is Sol thinking, letting Venestra & co. walk into danger without warning them about what might be waiting for them?
I think he knows that he will be gone. He obviously wants to deal with this problem by himself; without the Jedi’s help
 
I'm still liking the show a lot, but these episode cuts are really weird. Just like episode 4 the 6th episode felt like half an episode, but I'd argue its worse this time. The overall story and characters keep me interesting, but it feels like this whole show was cut up into chunks that the people making it didn't expect, and its hurt the show. It kind of feels like maybe it should have been a 6 episode show with longer episodes, at least it feels that way to me.

Still I'm enjoying the show a good deal and honestly think its the second best SW show after The Mandalorian, but I think being able to binge watch it all at your own pace after the show is complete is going to help the show a lot.
 
I think he knows that he will be gone. He obviously wants to deal with this problem by himself; without the Jedi’s help
He’s going to be gone, so it doesn’t matter if The Stranger slaughters the team that came to rescue him? I understand he doesn’t want to be there when they arrive, he needs some time to talk to Mae, but can’t he at least warn them what they’re walking into?
 
Well, I was wrong about the episode title mirroring but the story is better by resisting such forced constraints. This episode perfectly sets up the anticipated flashback from Mae's perspective, instead of just jumping to it after last week's devastating events.

Unsurprisingly, Qimir smoothly offers an alternative for Osha to what she thought she desired...and I loved his response to Osha's accusation of the Dark Force: "Eh, semantics." I don't know nearly enough of Star Wars lore beyond the shows and films, so while I don't know what Qimir might be, I do think he's different from just a straight-up Sith. There's something different and more nuanced to Qimir's motivations, which really appeals to me. But. I've been wrong before (...and so recently!). We'll know soon enough.

As for Sol, I'm glad that while he was understandably clouded with grief and dismay after the deaths of his entire team, including his padawan, he was ultimately not fooled by Mae's deception. But...not before PIP was reset to factory settings. That's a loss almost as great as Jecki!

Just two episodes left, with one of them providing the truth about what happened Brendok. I'm curious to see how well the show concludes its first season...and if it avoids being completely predictable (even though Leslye Headland has made it clear she doesn't care about predictability).

I just ignore all 1 ratings these days.
I just ignore all ratings. Always have, always will. I will never get people's obsession with such things.

Loved this weeks episode. I think we all now who his Jedi Master was.
You forget not everyone has read all of the books, comics, etc. and played all of the games. I have no clue who it is and I'm fine with that.
 
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I watched the first five episodes of Star Trek Prodigy and then tried to watch the Acolyte, but I couldn't keep my concentration focused on it because I couldn't stop thinking about the Prodigy story. I'm going to continue with my Prodigy binge and pick up with the Acolyte later.
 
Do people really hate The Acolyte that much? I've been enjoying it, and I thought most of the reviews I saw when it started were fairly positive.
Is it just more of the usual suspects not liking it for their usual reasons, or people actually being unhappy with the writing, directing, acting, ect.?

I don't hate it but i'm also not a fan.

For me it's a typical Disney product - hyped in some fan circles and when it's released turns out to be nothing really special. It may work on less engaged fans, who don't know much about background lore and just watch the show and the movies for the spectacle.

My reasons why i'm not a fan of this particular show can be summed up with these points in particular:

Carrie-Anne Moss was a stunt casting - one cool fight and that's basically it.

The twins reveal was supposed to be this huge twist and it's just meh - it's not a big leap to think that if one sister is force capable chances are the other is too.

Jedi are arrogant and it'll ultimately lead to their near extinction - that's been established for a loooong time.

All the elements are nothing new or special, the show is completely unoriginal and is just re-treading well worn paths without even trying to take the franchise in a new direction or show us something new.

As much as i liked Jacinto's performance as the Sith in this current episode he does nothing more than the usual corruption technique - zero in on a persons' weak spot, something they are very sensitive about, and twist it slowly to pull up the darker aspects. Sidious did it with Anakin and Dooku, tried it with Luke.

So in the end it's at best a very mediocre show that certainly doesn't deserve the review bombing it obviously receives but it also doesn't warrant more than average ratings and reviews.


It seems to me that Disney just doesn't know what to do with Star Wars. To me it looks like they bought it because of Lightsabers, Jedi and Sith, cool ships / space battles and above all the built in fanbase (that loves the mentioned elements) that developed over decades and should / will consume anything with the Star Wars logo on it.

Sometimes they hit gold with projects like Rogue One, The Mandalorian / Boba Fett and Andor but that's mainly because they got lucky in picking the right people with the right vision and the technical skills to pull it off but otherwise they play it safe and are just repeating things that have been a success in the past but keep forgetting that stagnation is the death of everything and just repeating familiar Star Wars tropes is exciting people less and less - that's at least me but i get the feeling i'm not alone.
 
I was not referring to side lore. I think that Venestra was his Jedi Master.
I don’t think so. In the novels she was shown to be a nice, law a-bidding Jedi. Sure that could have changed in the 100 years but I just don’t see it.
There was also that line about him being one a long time ago which implies he’s a lot older than he looks.
He possibly could have been her padawan and did turn on her, but she wouldn’t have struck him with his back turned.
 
He’s going to be gone, so it doesn’t matter if The Stranger slaughters the team that came to rescue him? I understand he doesn’t want to be there when they arrive, he needs some time to talk to Mae, but can’t he at least warn them what they’re walking into?
Well, they aren't actually walking into anything. Qimir has left the building.

Although I don't think Sol knows that.
 
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