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Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

How would you rate Superman?

  • You'll believe a man can fly

    Votes: 21 38.2%
  • A

    Votes: 8 14.5%
  • A-

    Votes: 10 18.2%
  • B+

    Votes: 9 16.4%
  • B

    Votes: 4 7.3%
  • B-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • D-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A pocket full of Kryptonite

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Total voters
    55
I figured it's because Peacemaker was successful. It's nothing more complex than that there's no need to throw a success overboard.
My assumption is that John Cena and The Rock are friends.

With the friends and family discount, Teth-Adam might make an appearance in Peacemaker eventually, unless he burnt all the bridges when he tried to take over the DCEU?
 
Saw it and it is a very good start für Gunn's DCU and if they can keep up that level ( i have great confidence that they can) the DCU is shaping up to be really good.

I'm not reading 24 pages but i'm sure what i'm saying has been said many times - finally a Superman who wears his heart on his sleeve. As he says in his final confrontation with Luthor he's human ( in all but blood) - he's scared, he makes mistakes, he loves and he just wants to do good and it is his one guiding principle he got from his parents, both birth as well as adopted ones.

What i really love is the twist with the second part of the message, that his birth parents wanted him to be a "soft" conqueror and rule Earth and it is an amazing writing choice because it let's Gunn show how utterly decent Superman/Kal El/Clark Kent is as a person that he rejects that second part of the message completely.

Also a very good choice to skip his origin, everybody who has even passing knowledge of Superman knows his backstory so why do it again? Loved how basically everybody knew about his secret identity, how Clark and Lois thought their relationship is secret ( yeah, in a building full of investigative journalists) and how he also basically tells eveybody his "secret" identity :lol:

I worried a bit that all the other superheroes might overshadow or drag the story down but it didn't, they were onscreen for just the right amount of time with Mr. Terrific getting a bit more screentime as he helps uncover the secrets of Luthor. Absolutely adored Fillion as Guy Gardner and hope to see more of the "gang" ( which we will starting with Peacemaker Season 2, another nice cameo).

The end was fantastic too - Milli Alcock literally "dropping" by as a foulmouthed party girl picking up her equally unruly dog and Gary showing him videos of his parents and we see Superman's real parents on Earth playing as he relaxes, perfect ending.

I was always more of a Marvel man myself and the MCU reigned supreme for a very long time in popculture over the DCU ( in my mind deservedly so) but this may be the changing of the guard as Marvel is struggling tremendously to reclaim lost glory while Gunn just put a rocket motor under DC.

If Marvel can get back to its former glory and DC catches up it will be a really cool time for Superhero fans. There is no superhero fatigue if the movies are good, it's that simple.
 
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Did Gunn slip in a wink and a nod to Fillion's role in "Dr. Horrible"? In the Hall of Justice scene, Guy says something about using his ring to create a giant hammer.
Well, two "constructs" that have been popular with GLs for decades have been boxing gloves and hammers. Throw in giant fans and scissors and you have most of the arsenal...
 
There is no superhero fatigue if the movies are good, it's that simple.
I agree with your entire review (including your position on the MCU and the DCU) but this bears repeating. I'm so sick of people (including certain famous directors) trotting out this same old whining. As you said, there is no superhero fatigue. All we ask for are good, fun, engaging adventures.
 
Nah. MoS was a modernized look at Superman and overall it was way more entertaining than the current crop of cape movies.

Wut?

Agreed, Superman 2025 isn't woke at all, it's just an incoherent mess.

I haven't seen it yet. I've heard it's a mess because too much is going on. I've heard comparisons to Black Adam. I hope not. I don't think it will surpass the first 3 Christopher Reeve films for me.


Yes. I love the 3rd with Richard Pryor. The effects were still top notch(i.e. Superman freezes a lake and uses the ice to put out a chemical fire). I even enjoy the comedic bits. Richard's with skies and a pink blanket as a cape. Lol. Comedy gold. I love that movie. 😆
 
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