Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

[DarrenTR1970]

In case anyone is interested - James Gunn was interviewed on NPR Morning Edition, where he talked about Superman, directing, screenwriting and the some of choices he made in Superman.

 

[Aragorn]

I disagree. People tend to tire of things eventually, or else we’d still be watching wall-to-wall Westerns.

Thunderbolts, good movie, lost money.

Captain America: Brave New World, bad movie, lost even more money, yet still had a bigger box office than Thunderbolts.

Of course, maybe studios need to stop spending $200 million on a movie's budget, but that's a different argument.

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't think Brave New World was bad.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm never sure what's intended to be accomplished by delivering a blow-by-blow synopsis of a movie as part of this kind of review. I mean, he throws occasional asides like "this was cool," into the middle of the recounting, but most of it is just like a kid on the playground describing a TV show he watched last night.

It was a bit of ramble.

 

[theenglish]

My assumption is that John Cena and The Rock are friends.

With the friends and family discount, Teth-Adam might make an appearance in Peacemaker eventually, unless he burnt all the bridges when he tried to take over the DCEU?

I think Gunn is just bringing over stuff that he has worked on. He also mentioned the Jaime Reyes would be part of this new universe before that movie flopped.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It was a bit of ramble.

The longer the video, the more money it makes.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The longer the video, the more money it makes.

By having more ads, you mean?

 

[ichab]

I disagree. People tend to tire of things eventually, or else we’d still be watching wall-to-wall Westerns.

Very true. I know that by the time of Endgame I was ready for a break from Super Hero movies.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I especially liked them having a rich guy using an army of monkeys to sway opinions on social media, which every billionare and political party on the planet does in the most open secret of our times.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

The longer the video, the more money it makes.

If you know Kevin Smith, you know that's not the reason. He is just the kind of person who can't shut up or get straight to the point.

 

[Awesome Possum]

The majority of Kevin Smith's career is just him talking for a long time and I say this as a fan of him talking for a long time.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

The majority of Kevin Smith's career is just him talking for a long time and I say this as a fan of him talking for a long time.

And very often about shit and whatnot.
Still, there's no bigger DOGMA fan than me.

 

[ichab]

I don't think Brave New World was bad.

I didn't think it was bad either. I actually enjoyed it far more than Civil War. But I usually go against the grain of popular taste so......

 

[JD]

I reread them recently. If you're interested, I'd read the entire Warren Ellis Stormwatch run that leads directly into the creation of The Authority. Then, read the Ellis and Millar Authority runs. The idea is basically showing superheroes going over the line and actually trying to change the world and being celebrities, and killing badguys. It is incredibly violent, funny, and has wide scale action.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

I figured it's because Peacemaker was successful. It's nothing more complex than that there's no need to throw a success overboard.

That and The Suicide Squad probably had at least a little to do with it too.

As for Kara, we literally just meet her at the end of the movie. Nothing is mentioned about her prior to that so we have no clue about her backstory.

In this IGN article they do have some quotes from Gunn talking a bit about this Kara's backstory.
She was raised on Argo City, which survived the destruction of Krypton, but apparently things did not go well there, so it left her with some issues that she deals with by drinking and partying.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I think Gunn is just bringing over stuff that he has worked on. He also mentioned the Jaime Reyes would be part of this new universe before that movie flopped.

Quote I read was "Depending on how well Blue Beetle does, it's either the first movie of the DCU or the last movie of the DCEU."

They should have made George Lopez Blue Beetle, and maybe Gary Busy or NIck Nolte to play his down on his luck Booster Gold, swearing to his bookie that he definitely remembers who won the super bowl this year, no, next year, shit what year is it?.

 

[Firebird]

The majority of Kevin Smith's career is just him talking for a long time and I say this as a fan of him talking for a long time.

One of the Evening With Kevin Smith DVDs is 95% about a single question regarding Cop Out. Absolutely bonkers.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

One of the Evening With Kevin Smith DVDs is 95% about a single question regarding Cop Out. Absolutely bonkers.

His story regarding trying to write a Superman script and the giant mechanical spider is hilarious.