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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

Honestly, I've never really had a preference between James and Winn, so I was going be equally happy no matter who she ended up with,

I'm still rooting for Kara to follow up on her assertion that she wants to date Lucy. :D


I'm hoping that the fact that they've moved Lucy over to the DEO and out of CatCo means we won't be getting as much of the love triangle drama, and that she'll just be a part of the DEO/Supergirl stories.

I think that's the intent. James/Lucy and Winn/Kara have both run their courses, and Lucy's role now is as part of the DEO team.
 
I'm still rooting for Kara to follow up on her assertion that she wants to date Lucy. :D.

How about Kara/Alex? So what if they were raised together. That would not stop Barry and Iris from having a relationship. Heck, Kara and ALex are not even the same species.
 
Honestly, I've never really had a preference between James and Winn, so I was going be equally happy no matter who she ended up with,
I'm hoping that the fact that they've moved Lucy over to the DEO and out of CatCo means we won't be getting as much of the love triangle drama, and that she'll just be a part of the DEO/Supergirl stories.

Lucy has already ended the relationship and moved on. They both realized it just wasn't working out and ended things amiably. I was actually impressed with how that resolution was written in that both characters acted like adults and moved on. I also liked how Kara eventually trusted Lucy--it actually makes her a great character.

On another matter, are Kara and Clark (as opposed to Superman and Supergirl) supposed to be cousins in this show--because that would really stretch the cover of their secret identities if people thought that. If they're not supposed to be cousins, then both of them seem pretty clueless about the dangers of texting private information over work channels.

How about Kara/Alex? So what if they were raised together. That would not stop Barry and Iris from having a relationship. Heck, Kara and ALex are not even the same species.

That's a little icky. Barry and Iris were never brother and sister--Alex and Kara are very much sisters.
 
That's a little icky. Barry and Iris were never brother and sister--Alex and Kara are very much sisters.

Barry Allen is Joe West's adopted son, so Iris is technically his adoptive sister, exactly as Alex is Kara's adoptive sister.

Still, it seems that Barry and Iris never really thought of each other as siblings, and the show's never really treated them that way. By contrast, Kara and Alex very much do consider each other sisters, and that sororal relationship is central to the show. So it wouldn't make any sense to change that to a romantic relationship. That would be just as wrong as having J'onn and Alex end up together, given that J'onn sees Alex and Kara as his surrogate daughters. (Now, J'onn and Eliza could work, if Jeremiah weren't still alive...)
 
Honestly, I've never really had a preference between James and Winn, so I was going be equally happy no matter who she ended up with,

Then, you're a rare one, since too many SG fans have become extreme hardliners with their hate of James.

I'm hoping that the fact that they've moved Lucy over to the DEO and out of CatCo means we won't be getting as much of the love triangle drama, and that she'll just be a part of the DEO/Supergirl stories.

Unless Lucy takes the road of her comic counterpart, she's still only serving the role of emotional irritant to Supergirl/Kara just by being in the same space, no matter her telling James the relationship was over.
 
On another matter, are Kara and Clark (as opposed to Superman and Supergirl) supposed to be cousins in this show--because that would really stretch the cover of their secret identities if people thought that. If they're not supposed to be cousins, then both of them seem pretty clueless about the dangers of texting private information over work channels.

I don't think we've had any indication that their secret identities are supposed to be related. As for their texting: one would hope they're using a kryptonion-enhanced security program on their computers and cell phones (perhaps using a small hidden kryptonian-rather-than-human satellite network). Otherwise, they're just asking for trouble.
 
I don't think we've had any indication that their secret identities are supposed to be related. As for their texting: one would hope they're using a kryptonion-enhanced security program on their computers and cell phones (perhaps using a small hidden kryptonian-rather-than-human satellite network). Otherwise, they're just asking for trouble.

Kara's best friend is the company's IT guy. He's probably tweaked her security somehow. Or maybe she had the DEO put government-level encryption on her devices.
 
I don't think we've had any indication that their secret identities are supposed to be related. As for their texting: one would hope they're using a kryptonion-enhanced security program on their computers and cell phones (perhaps using a small hidden kryptonian-rather-than-human satellite network). Otherwise, they're just asking for trouble.
Krypto-cryptography?
 
The following is not about you, but it brings up a point I touched on a few pages ago: some viewers have serious issues with the James character and/or Mechad Brooks as an actor (when he's one of the few consistent actors on the series). I observed some fans seeing this awkward version of Kara as a representation of themselves, so they also sold themselves on the idea that Kara should be with their idea of the "right" man--a geek like Winn (wimpy), or someone who is thought to have some geek traits like Barry.

Certain fans have been beating the anti-James drum (well, this version of Olsen) online from the start, and despite the always revealing defense of "its not about James being black," a number of fans (many often talking about how "progressive" they are about social issues) cry about how James is "supposed" to be a redheaded geek (like the complaining set), not "some black guy." So much for the progressive mindset.

This is not a case of hardline comic traditionalists complaining, since few of the anti-James crowd are traditionalists about other comic-to-screen casting or stories, but they reserve special distaste for this latest version of Olsen. Another recent example is after Kevin Smith said the finale would make fans sad, fans speculated on a possible death, but the anti-James crowd actively posted death wishes, all for the same, ill-minded reasons.

I'll give you one of the lighter examples (but revealing in any case) of the reaction to James just walking to Kara's door, then the kiss from "Worlds Finest." Click to 12:22 in this review video--

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It matters not who viewers want Kara to love, but this one reaction is a sample of the kind of hostility aimed at the James character. I seriously doubt its all about a desire to see Kara with their idea geek character. To be clear, there are far worse videos and posts, but I will not repost them here.

Those people in that vid are seriously over the top.

I just don't like the constant referencing back to Superman every time he gives Kara advice. On reflection the show to a point is in Superman's shadow. And i think thats where the dislike mainly stems from. I like the show and yes Supergirl is the male Superman (And Melissa is so dam cute) but change a few things on this show and you could be watching a Superman show. This obviously is the fault of writers not brave enough to make Supergirl her own standout character.
 
I just don't like the constant referencing back to Superman every time he gives Kara advice.

That's not what he's usually done. In this case, he just said things like "Is this what a hangover feels like," "I guess you're made of stronger stuff," etc. She doesn't need his advice any more than she needs his rescuing. And it's hardly been "constant." We've seen texts from Superman in maybe 3-4 episodes out of 20.


and yes Supergirl is the male Superman

Say what now?


but change a few things on this show and you could be watching a Superman show. This obviously is the fault of writers not brave enough to make Supergirl her own standout character.

That's not at all true. Supergirl has been distinct from Superman from the start. She hasn't operated as a loner and kept her identity secret from her closest friends. She's been more of a team player, working with a government agency and building a support structure among her work friends. And she has a more Kryptonian identity and is more of an outsider on Earth, which is something that hasn't been a part of Superman's characterization since 30 years ago. She isn't as close to her adoptive parents as Clark is to the Kents, and feels a stronger bond to her birth parents. And she has a sibling, something Superman never had. Also, she isn't a reporter in her civilian identity. Her plots don't revolve around investigating news stories to the same extent that Superman stories usually do. And though I sometimes compare Cat Grant to Perry White, the mentor-protegee relationship between Cat and Kara is unlike anything in Clark Kent's professional life. Kara's relationships with Alex and Cat are the emotional core of this show, and there is no Superman equivalent for either of them.

Granted, the show has given Supergirl a number of Superman's foes and revamped Maxwell Lord into a rather Lex Luthor-like figure (though less so than we initially assumed). But there are more than enough differences to make Supergirl very much her own character.
 
That's not what he's usually done. In this case, he just said things like "Is this what a hangover feels like," "I guess you're made of stronger stuff," etc. She doesn't need his advice any more than she needs his rescuing. And it's hardly been "constant." We've seen texts from Superman in maybe 3-4 episodes out of 20.

I think doylem1 was referring to James 'constantly referencing' Superman when giving advice. Personally, I think it makes sense for James to do so, though. His main identity for years has been 'Superman's pal,' and he is now old enough and experienced enough to provide Superman's perspective on what Kara is going through.
 

Season finale ratings
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The Supergirl season finale suffered yet another drop from the previous week. Episode 19 from 4/11/16 pulled 6.118 (viewers in millions), but E20--the 4/18/16 finale dropped to 6.109. Apparently, the set up from E19 was not enough to bring back the same numbers, or draw anyone else in just to see how this new series wrapped up its season.

Well, I think part of it has been the start-stop season, where you had relatively no idea if you'd see a new episode or not...not like some shows, like The Walking Dead, where you knew exactly when it would be...not just 4 weeks out, but even way before then, and it was a guaranteed cliffhanger you didnt want to miss (at least from the hype)
 
Put me down as not caring one whit about the relationship nonsense on this show as it's by far the weakest element.

Not wild about the characterisation of Jimmy Olsen either, though not because of how it departs from some other version of Olsen, having never been invested in *any* incarnation of the character, but because he's been written as utterly bland. One note. Only there to create drama, without any real agency. Doesn't help that there's not much in the way of real chemistry between him and the star of the show.

Personally I'm hoping the show gets retooled for season 2. There's some things that work very well, some things not so much and others they'd be better off just dropping altogether. The worst part of it is that the major components of the show just don't fit together very well.
 
^ Just wait until the pink kryptonite episode.

I think you mean the rainbow kryptonite episode.

I like the show and yes Supergirl is the male Superman (And Melissa is so dam cute) but change a few things on this show and you could be watching a Superman show. This obviously is the fault of writers not brave enough to make Supergirl her own standout character.

That was part of the character arc of the first season though. It was about Kara stepping out from Kal's shadow. She saved the world when he couldn't and it was acknowledged at the end. I think (hope?) we'll get less of that next season.

That said, I would like to see Berlanti convince Tom Welling to put on the suit and come back. It would be similar to what people are hoping for over in the Flash thread. The show doesn't have to accept Smallville as canon (and it obviously can't at this point) but it would be great if Welling and Durance could reprise their characters for guest appearances.
 
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I cannot stress enough how much I do not think Tom Welling would make a good Superman. Although I'd be open to Brandon Routh if he weren't already playing another role in the MultiBerlantiverse.
 
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