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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

Well, yes and no. There are certainly some people who react that way, unfortunately, but that's not the only issue. Given that many prior screen adaptations have tended to create the impression of Jimmy as a nerdy, goofy cub reporter, I can understand why this more mature, accomplished version of the character -- one who's actually closer to Jimmy's comics roots in many ways -- would seem unfamiliar to many people who know the character only from the screen. I think a lot of people would be having an issue with that regardless of the casting. I'm sure that some of them are using it as a cover for a racist reaction, so that can blur the issue, but I don't think it's fair to assume that's true of everyone who finds this version of the character unfamiliar.

Perhaps, but this happens almost every time a darker skinned person is hired to play a white person's part. Sometimes, as in the case of Iris West I believe, this criticism disappears fairly quickly but in others it goes on and on. Frankly, it would be a joke by now if it wasn't so serious. The big exception to this rule that I can think of was Jackson being cast as Nick Fury. Can you think of another?

Huh? I don't think Kara is in any way the less powerful one in this situation. Remember the red kryptonite episode, when she was dragging him roughly onto the dance floor and practically molesting him? He would've been totally powerless to stop her. And her recollection of that incident is probably part of why, in the finale, she stressed that she was "all about consent" with regards to their earlier kiss. Given how much stronger she is than everyone else, that's something she'd have good reason to be very sensitive to.

I'm not referring to physical power here. I am referring to an older person getting involved with a co-worker who is in her early to mid-twenties. In every sense, aside from Superpowers, James would be the person with the perceived social power in this dynamic. This is something that many of us are trained to be conscious of in our contemporary workplaces and work actively to avoid getting ourselves into situations that could become legal or social complications down the road. Many programs ignore this altogether, but I thought that Supergirl did a pretty good job.
 
My familiarity with him was from the 90s run, and I always rather liked the character.... he was definitely rough around the edges and brash but had a heart of gold. Don't know what they may have done to the character since, though.... Young Justice is one of the few DC properties I have to watch still, so I can't comment on that one.

My main exposure is from the novelization The Death and Life of Superman, some other glimpses of '90s comics over the years, the rather annoying version of Connor/Superboy on Smallville, and the Young Justice version.


I think it's really weird to hear people assuming that criticism of James Olsen is based in racism. I certainly wouldn't want to get rid of him and he's a good guy but frankly he's rather boring.

Sadly, it's not weird at all. There are people out there who react with virulent anger any time a black actor is cast in a white role, or any time a black person is perceived as taking a white person's "proper" place. You should see some of the insane racist reactions online to the decision to replace Andrew Jackson with Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill. There's this one rant that's been making the rounds on Facebook, someone protesting that Tubman was an escaped slave who "stole" slaves that were other people's "rightful property" and she was therefore a criminal who shouldn't be on our money. Never mind that George Washington was a traitor to the British crown and therefore also a criminal...
 
From your posts in this thread I kinda got the impression you don't enjoy watching this show all that much, so why on Earth are you also watching other people watch this show? :shrug:

Your impressions are not clear, and aside from that, why do you care?
 
Perhaps, but this happens almost every time a darker skinned person is hired to play a white person's part. Sometimes, as in the case of Iris West I believe, this criticism disappears fairly quickly but in others it goes on and on.

The same happened when Michael Clarke Duncan was cast as the Kingpin in the 2003 adaptation of Daredevil; the cries of "why?? Kingpin is white!" "If a black character had been recast with a white guy, there would be riots!"

Let's not forget the ever-so-open minded Star Trek fans who bitched at the casting of Tim Russ as Tuvok, saying, "Vulcans were established as all looking like_____! There's no black Vulcans!"

I recall resentment about the John Stewart character was the Green Lantern of Justice League/ Justice League Unlimited instead of Hal Jordan. It did not matter that Stewart had been a staple of DC since 1971,for a certain part of the fanbase, he was "wrong." They took their resentment to new levels when the subplot of Stewart's romance with Shayera Hol (Hawkgirl) was introduced, arguing the she should only be with Hawkman (who was not a character on the series at its start). Add it all together, and it seems all so similar to the ranting about James as a character and the fact he's romantically attached to Kara.

Again, some of this end of the fanbase claim to be so "free thinking" and liberal about everything else in the world...except for race.

I'm not referring to physical power here. I am referring to an older person getting involved with a co-worker who is in her early to mid-twenties. In every sense, aside from Superpowers, James would be the person with the perceived social power in this dynamic. This is something that many of us are trained to be conscious of in our contemporary workplaces and work actively to avoid getting ourselves into situations that could become legal or social complications down the road. Many programs ignore this altogether, but I thought that Supergirl did a pretty good job.

Interesting, and understood. People tend to forget that when Kara is relating to James, she is doing so as her regular self--not standing on a platform, cape flowing in the wind. She's a young woman who was not only instantly attracted to / falling for James, but in their dynamic as regular people, he is older, and more experienced than she is, so that--particularly in workplace environments--gives James a certain social power. That's not a knock of of who she is any more than to say she's in a similar position with Cat--sans the romantic component.
 
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Sadly, it's not weird at all. There are people out there who react with virulent anger any time a black actor is cast in a white role, or any time a black person is perceived as taking a white person's "proper" place. You should see some of the insane racist reactions online to the decision to replace Andrew Jackson with Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill. There's this one rant that's been making the rounds on Facebook, someone protesting that Tubman was an escaped slave who "stole" slaves that were other people's "rightful property" and she was therefore a criminal who shouldn't be on our money. Never mind that George Washington was a traitor to the British crown and therefore also a criminal...

...and pundits claiming its a "PC" decision, as if Tubman is a forced decision, and not the historically significant woman who helped change the course of American history. Even everyone's favorite presidential candidate--Donald Trump--said the decision to add Tubman was "political."
 
I don't, I just find it odd that you would invest that much time into something you don't like.



You seem to be one of those SG fans who thinks the series is the greatest thing since air, therefore, you burn this thread with personal attacks against anyone who dares to have their own opinion--like everyone else in this thread.

Stick to the topic.
 
TREK_GOD: dodge isn't the only person who has gotten the impression that you don't particularly like the show and yet continue to post about it, so maybe you ought to try being less harsh and more positive if you don't want people questioning you on why you post in this thread.
 
DigificWriter: stick to the topic, or I should start commenting on your posts where you jumped on other members for their observations about this perfect TV series?
 
You seem to be one of those SG fans who thinks the series is the greatest thing since air

I do like the show, and I like it enough to choose to spend a little extra time and discuss it online every now and then. Which is why I'm genuinely puzzled as to why you would devote more time to this show than me, even though you apparently don't enjoy it nearly as much.


Stick to the topic.

While you're perfectly entitled to crap on the show every week, we're perfectly entitled to be bewildered as to why you keep watching it since you obviously don't like it...
 
I do like the show, and I like it enough to choose to spend a little extra time and discuss it online every now and then. Which is why I'm genuinely puzzled as to why you would devote more time to this show than me, even though you apparently don't enjoy it nearly as much.

You are not contributing a thing to this thread at all, other than trolling. The past couple of pages have members discussing the negative fan reaction to the James Olsen character / the character's development. What have you offered that's about the series? Nothing--your last three posts have been personal attacks.

Keep it up.
 
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Whatever.
There is a report button under every post if you think you've been "personally attacked" by a "troll".
 
I finally did a marathon and finished off Supergirl sitting in the DVR. I found the concluding two parter to be much more well done than some of the other episodes. Specifically the instant transformation of Siobhan into Silver Banshee with face paint and blue contacts. Now the rest of that episode, Worlds Finest, was simply awesome and Grant Gustin gets mad props for appearing. He clearly is loving being The Flash.

The logical conclusion was to pardon J'onn/Hank and allow him to return to the D.E.O. It seems Lucy Lane will be staying on as well. That second Jimmy/Kara kiss was needed to seal the deal moving into S2(which is unannounced still?) after the Myriad affects.

Overall I enjoyed S1 and some silliness aside, casting miscues and character portrayles I'd have altered I still found the show deserving of a S2. Especially since it seems we are going to Cadmus to get Jeremiah back as part of S2 return.
 
@TREK_GOD_1, I know you were addressing @dodge in you last couple posts, but as one of the people who started the conversation about all the negativity, I just want to say that I was not trolling with my post, I was asking an honest question. I'm still kind of hoping for an honest answer.
 
I finally did a marathon and finished off Supergirl sitting in the DVR. I found the concluding two parter to be much more well done than some of the other episodes. Specifically the instant transformation of Siobhan into Silver Banshee with face paint and blue contacts. Now the rest of that episode, Worlds Finest, was simply awesome and Grant Gustin gets mad props for appearing. He clearly is loving being The Flash.

The logical conclusion was to pardon J'onn/Hank and allow him to return to the D.E.O. It seems Lucy Lane will be staying on as well. That second Jimmy/Kara kiss was needed to seal the deal moving into S2(which is unannounced still?) after the Myriad affects.

Overall I enjoyed S1 and some silliness aside, casting miscues and character portrayles I'd have altered I still found the show deserving of a S2. Especially since it seems we are going to Cadmus to get Jeremiah back as part of S2 return.
Aside from some earlier announced renewals of several shows, I don't think CBS has done their upfronts for next season yet. It'll probably when that happens that we'll learn if Supergirl will get a second season.
 
Aside from some earlier announced renewals of several shows, I don't think CBS has done their upfronts for next season yet. It'll probably when that happens that we'll learn if Supergirl will get a second season.
IIRC, CBS announced that all their first season shows were being renewed and then didn't mention Supergirl in that list.
 
None of the series that CBS has already renewed are first-year series.

The only thing that has been said about the network's crop of Freshman shows came from Les Moonves, who said that the network was going to renew 5 of their 6 Freshman shows.

The decision on Supergirl's future has already been made for WEEKS at this point and conveyed to the people involved in the series, with said individuals making decisions and comments based on what they were told.

Not only has a concrete casting announcement already been made for Season 2 (Linda Carter as the U.S. Peesident), Greg, Andrew, Melissa, and Chyler have all spoken about Season 2 being a reality.
 
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