Stupid Stuff in TNG

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by gakelly, Mar 4, 2019.

  1. Marsden

    Marsden Commodore Commodore

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    I agree with you, I remember stuff from when I was 2. I just wonder if it's because I haven't been much of a drinker, they always joke about losing brain cells as if it isn't true, but then some people really can't remember kindergarten, so....

    I think Picard didn't want to assume boy genius remembered it all, even though I'd expect 24th century people to be more advanced and more capable of remembering things, they teach them Calculus in first grade, don't they?
     
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  2. Discofan

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    The stupid limitations that don't make sense. Like they can "deage" Pulaski using DNA from a "hair sample", which means replace each of her aged cells by a younger one!!! But they can't reconstitute Worf's spine using the same method, which is arguably a much simpler thing to do.

    Plus as everyone knows, they have devised in that show something like five or six ways to be immortal but somehow they refuse to see it!!! Instead, we have Admirals using painful methods that end up killing them!!! Seriously!
     
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  3. JirinPanthosa

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    I'm a moderate drinker, but didn't start until like 7 years ago. I haven't had any memory issues. I think remembering early childhood memories has more to do with how much stuff stays in your life that reminds you of it.
     
  4. JesterFace

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but originally the EMH Doctor of Voyager couldn't exist outside sickbay? Only after they got tech from the future he was able to leave sickbay?

    Moriarty was trapped in holodeck, EMH was trapped in sickbay. EMH technology might not have been the solution for Moriarty to explore the galaxy if EMH can't leave sickbay.
     
  5. Lance

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    Well yes, but he could exist in sickbay because the room was lined with holo-emitters. By the time of the Voyager episode with Andy Dick as the new EMH, it appears that whole ships are now lined with holo-emitters (which makes sense in case an EMH ever needs to transfer somewhere else to help). We see both EMH's existing in areas outside of sickbay.

    If the NCC 1701D had holo-emitters up and down the ship, as future Starfleet ships seem to only a half decade later, then Moriarty could have just stepped straight off the holodeck.
     
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  7. MAGolding

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    When I was a child my mother asked me if I remembered things which happened around my second birthday and I didn't remember them. My earliest memories must be from about age three I guess.
     
  8. Discofan

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    With holo-emitters all over the ship, you don't need a crew, a holographic crew could do most of the work... a couple of people could run a galaxy class ship!!!
     
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  9. Timo

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    Having tractor emitters right next to the shuttlebay doors is practical, I guess, and made graphically explicit in DSC of late. But even with the fancy tilted doorways of TNG, the ability to steer the shuttle or other object cuts off at the most inconvenient point imaginable - said doorway! Emitters dangling on poles or extra emitters indoors would make good sense, then.

    (The silly console would be an emergency backup brought out only because this shuttlepod was drifting out of control - and the nice tape on the floor telling people to stay out of the firing line of this emergency emitter would of course really be just a projection, not actual tape. :devil: )

    "Time Squared" just happens to be the first and foremost episode to drive home the fact that the doorway is not tilted! We see the vertical opening from multiple angles, and there's no sign of the sloping walls of the ship's spine there. At least other eps had the decency to stick to straight-on shooting angles.

    Or is the bay itself tilted in relation to every other deck inside the ship...?

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  10. Lance

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    Admittedly true, which the Andy Dick episode kinda confirms too :D

    (Sorry to keep referencing it as the Andy Dick episode rather than episode title, but its 1am in the morning where I am and my brain has turned to mush ;) Lol)
     
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  11. Finn

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    I did found that confusing. But they did seem to leave the nature of their mission vague. Also, it is possible it wasn't meant to be for 75 years, but perhaps several months. It also could have been led by a rogue Klingon leader who didin't consult with the high council or his superiors- wouldn't be inconsistent with what we've seen.

    There was no holo-Data in that scene. Just Worf and Data along with several background extras.
     
  12. Timo

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    The mission of the sleeper ship probably had nothing to do with the eventual actions of the sleeper ship. These Klingons just found themselves in the middle of UFP colonies where they were expecting to find something else - it would be natural for them to deduce the UFP had won big time, in which case the only thing left for them to do was indeed to die gloriously.

    Of course, one of us could write a novel about how the Klingons knew of an artifact of immense power in the region, a dark gateway to an alternate realm, a key to the undoing of their enemies - and had already been there several decades ago, far outside communications range, and were now bringing the benefits back to the Empire after their second stretch of cryosleep. So the Empire wouldn't be afraid of the sleepers embarrassing them by slaughtering a few hundred thousand Fed civilians - it was afraid of the sleepers getting caught and having to hand over this secret of great power. So K'ehleyr had two choices: to destroy the secret, or to pull the wool over the Starfleet eyes long enough for the Empire to take possession of what was (not) theirs.

    But ultimately this doesn't matter...

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  13. Crazyewok

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    Maybe sent out to find a fabled iconian gateway?
     
  14. Timo

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    Or then their mission, essential to the security of the Klingon Empire, was to remain asleep and away for at least 75 years and not bother the High Council...

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  15. Discofan

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    Stupid Riker puts on a device that brainwashes him instantly and almost causes the fall of the Federation. One would think in a galaxy where such things are possible, people, especially people with great responsibilities like Riker would be more prudent about what gadgets they put on their heads!!!!
     
  16. gakelly

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    In Angel One, the woman leader, Beata, cannot track down the guy with the bad influence, Ramsey, for years. She has exhausted every resource, yet as soon as the Enterprise shows up, she simply has Ariel followed and bam...she catches Ramsey. She had never thought to have her followed ever before?
     
  17. JesterFace

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    It might not have been enough for Moriarty to just walk around on the Enterprise or some other Starfleet location.
    In 'Ship in a Bottle' he talked about traveling the galaxy. That would not have been possible. Basically Picard gave him more than "our world" could have given. He was free of technological restraints, able to go anywhere.
     
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  18. Noname Given

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    ^^^
    His vocal programming mistakenly classified that word as a contraction; so, he couldn't speak it properly. ;)
     
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  19. NewHeavensNewEarth

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    They made the EMH a backup commander, so why not have backups for everybody? And in typical VOY style, that would have provided endless episodes about the relationships of those holographic crew. Maybe holo-Janeway and holo-Chakotay would've ended up together and had holo-babies.
     
  20. Finn

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    Or holo-Janeway and holo-Paris had baby holo-salamanders.