Strange New Worlds review **POSSIBLE SPOILERS**

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Amasov, May 1, 2022.

  1. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    There is one moment in the first episode where they have the tech do something that 23rd century tech shouldn't be able to do. And I was taken aback by it, and laughed. Later I realized that TOS had this particular tech do even more ludicrous things on occasion, without even batting an eye. Still, it was the single most Akiva Goldsman moment in this Goldsman script.

    The second episode, "Children of The Comet," is very different from the pilot. It's written with a lot of nuance, and is an honest-to-gods science fiction story, to the extent that can apply to the TV variety. Afterward I was kind of "how did that happen on Star Trek?"

    This isn't any "Discoverse;" to the extent that any such thing might exist, it's confined to their 32nd century now. I don't think they had definite plans for SNW when they did the second season conclusion of STD, but if they hadn't quarantined Discovery and her crew in a different place it would probably have been impossible to do SNW fully in the way that they have. The two shows could scarcely share so specific a milieu.

    This is Trek's 23rd century, "Prime" if you must call it that, and in many small ways and a few large, Strange New Worlds owns the 23rd century now. It doesn't reimagine or reboot Trek. It just restarts it.
     
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  2. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Three or four of them, at least. And they have Youtube channels.
     
  3. DEWLine

    DEWLine Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'm still watching DSC and I'm definitely not hate-watching.

    Back to SNW...
     
  4. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    The truth of this has nothing to do with Star Trek. You can be the all-time expert on all things Star Trek and claiming this is still mistaken. It's not something you get to vote on.


    That'd be just one more thing that you'd be completely wrong about, then.

    I have emotional attachments to many objects as well. That does not transform them into beings.

    That's a reasonable comparison.
     
  5. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    the Robert April cameo, which I guess means TAS is no longer canon?

    It's more than a cameo, and evidently recurring. And it's quite good. Nothing to complain about there, at all.

    There is, BTW, another bit of a cast surprise that's rather delightful, and I haven't seen it chattered about online yet, as that one has.

    Lieutenant Sam Kirk is a recurring character in at least the first two episodes.
     
  6. Gepard

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    Then you keep getting them with Discovery and Picard.

    Me, I'm hoping desperately that SNW isn't anything like those two.
     
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  7. fireproof78

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    Indeed.
    Also, indeed.
     
  8. gvn2fly

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    There were a lot of errors in that show :)
     
  9. JoaquinSlowly

    JoaquinSlowly Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    ‪‪I don’t think that’s necessarily the case.

    We know that a lot of things in TAS don’t translate 1:1 to TOS, and ‪‪I think we can chalk that up to different representations in different mediums allowing for variation in visual depictions and representations, while still respecting the canon, and continuity of the content of the story.

    ‪‪Because of the way Akiva Goldsman, SNW’s co-show runner/EP, refers to TAS as canon, I think it’s reasonable to conclude that the events of The Counter-Clock Incident are canon, they just didn’t appear exactly as depicted in TAS.

    For reference, Goldsman referred to TAS as canon on the Deadline Picard podcast in an interview back when he was developing SNW, and working on Picard S01 from a couple years back.

     
  10. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I thought he hated Trek and had never watched it?
     
  11. CorporalCaptain

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    As much as I love TAS, I'm not bothered in the slightest by this news.
     
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  12. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    I didn't time the shows, but they really move. They pack a lot of story into an hour or so.
     
  13. starfleettanner

    starfleettanner Commander Red Shirt

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    Is that who the mustache guy was seen in the trailer on the bridge? The blueshirt?
     
  14. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Yes.
     
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  15. Tuskin38

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    That seems so obvious now. The moustache should have been the giveaway.

    I kid, but that's great. Characters like this I'm fine with, one we know almost zero about. Makes his death in TOS more tragic.
     
  16. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I just read a non-spoiler review on Tumblr that basically said it's the same political stuff as the rest of modern Trek but anti-"woke" fans might not notice because a rugged white man is in charge:lol:

    They said episodes 1 and 2 were okay nothing special, which is pretty much what I'm expecting.
     
  17. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    the two sides (or options) are:
    A: the actors and people at trek websites are lying or have no clue, but you do.
    B: the actors and people at trek websites know what they're talking about, and you're wrong.

    pretty easy to figure out what's more likely.

    since that won't be understood, here's an example:
    the hemmer actor says his quarters are on deck 4. the review authors confirm that. then you come in and say that's not true. who wins? :p
     
  18. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    IMO, if the Enterprise is a character, then one that is very underutilized, looks very cool and mostly does important background stuff that isn't relevant to the plot, only to be eventually dramatically killed off. The Airiam of TOS. Really, fans should be furious. Even Voyager got more "character" moments.
     
  19. gvn2fly

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    Here are a few more.

    Variety
    "Strange New Worlds is content to fall back on the basics: a likable cast traveling the galaxy, having wacky sci-fi adventures, and generally having a hell of a good time. By and large, this approach works. While it lacks “Discovery’s” ambition, “Strange New Worlds” also avoids that show’s struggles with serialization and scope, as each episode limits its focus to the story at hand. The result is as straightforward and direct as the show’s leading man, and nearly as likable. There’s no strain here, and while the more episodic style may be old-fashioned, it’s refreshing to watch something that isn’t pretending to be a 10-hour movie."

    IGN Movies 9/10-
    "Funny, inspiring, and kind of amazing, Strange New Worlds is, so far, the best new Trek in years."

    Slashfilm
    "In returning to a familiar ship, familiar characters (Pike, Spock, Number One, Khan, Uhura, Dr. M'Benga, Nurse Chapel), and Trek's classical and well-worn hour-long episodic format, the franchise has finally reached a point where it is ... however unbelievable it might be ... legitimately good once again. No qualifications are needed any longer. "Strange New Worlds" is, quite simply, the best "Star Trek" show in decades."
     
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  20. gvn2fly

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    FYI: The Slashfilm review has episode descriptions and spoilers for the first 5 episodes in case anyone is interested. Each episode's plot is specifically discussed. There are some major plot and character spoilers so proceed with caution..or if you're like me..Enjoy!