Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[IMC Headquarters]

They should have given Pike a bowl haircut. Missed a trick there!

 

[Lord Hierarch]

They should have given Pike a bowl haircut. Missed a trick there!

They tried. After the hundredth broken file they gave up.

 

[Nyotarules]

I personally don't think it's too weird to say that aliens from a completely different planet might act different to humans for biological reasons as well as cultural reasons. It might be a bit weird if you're considering alien races to be a sci-fi version of different human groups, but not everything has to represent our own situation perfectly. Sometimes a Vulcan is just a Vulcan.

That said, it's been shown about a million times at this point that Vulcans aren't born emotionless and it's something that they have to learn.

It's why the Romulans left the planet. Surak was a party pooper

 

[Tallguy]

It's why the Romulans left the planet. Surak was a party pooper

I will always assume Spock's World / The Romulan Way is "how it happened". But have we ever heard any of that on screen?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Only from Surak's POV. History is written by the victors, after all.

"Forge" had some of that stuff to it but, again, from Surak's POV. He could have been a right-tyrannical bastard, demanding those who "marched beneath the raptor's wings" either get with the program, leave the planet or face execution. Most seem to have picked "option 2".

We'll never know.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I will always assume Spock's World / The Romulan Way is "how it happened". But have we ever heard any of that on screen?

I think there is a line about "Those who march beneath raptor's wings" in ENT. Implying that the prot-Romulans were a faction in the Vulcan Civil War.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, Syrran uses that line in a conversation with Archer and T'Pol when he tries to explain the history of his movement and Vulcan's violent past.

 

[Tuskin38]

I never said I was against funny episodes. The Lower Decks crossover and musical are in my top 10.

I’m just tired of Spock being the punching bag of the jokes. All three seasons now seem to have had one.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

So...they survived the Gorn thing, eh?

 

[Nerys Myk]

So...they survived the Gorn thing, eh?

Shocking, I know.

 

[NCC-73515]

Alexander definitely wasn't the central figure in a humorous story.

silly stuff like kirk the horse, them jumping around on the chess floor, or spock tap dancing next to kirk's head.

 

[Nerys Myk]

silly stuff like kirk the horse, them jumping around on the chess floor, or spock tap dancing next to kirk's head.

Not all that silly. It's not like it was done to be funny. It's about mind control and humiliation.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, it's the in-story context. Nothing silly about what Parmen subjected Kirk and Spock to.

 

[NCC-73515]

it did LOOK silly, that is the point. this SNW ep could also be very serious, but that scene alone, without context, as presented, looks silly, just like those scenes from stepchildren taken by themselves, without context, LOOK silly. that's all

 

[Jayson1]

Nothing silly about it. Technobabble will explain it all and canon will be preserved!

 

[Tuskin38]

 

[Lord Hierarch]

Ethan: Now that Scotty is on board, Spock get's half the technobabble!

The writer's: Good news Spock! We've doubled the amount of technobabble per episode!

Ethan: D:.

 

[tomalak301]

I went to the Star Trek convention in Las Vegas and on the Sunday they had the entire cast on the same stage during the two part panel session. It was lovely to see, and it was so nice to see Carol Kane there.

 

[Tuskin38]

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[Richard S. Ta]

I'm no Canon Warrior, but the embrace of logic as a philosophy to control their strong biological emotions has been there since TOS. One is a cultural difference and one is not. So, I was confused too by a DNA change that caused them all to be suddenly controlled and logical. "All Vulcans are logical" is a stereotype (Sybok has entered the chat). "Vulcans have strong emotions that most usually control with logic-based discipline" is a fact.

Hopefully, the episode will shed light on this seeming weirdness.

Or... it's just for funsies.

It doesn’t make any sense, but at my age I just don’t care. Ive been in discomfort and pain for several months now and ‘fun’ is pretty high on my list of priorities in entertainment.

It is daft. It’s daft that the hairstyles change as well but… eh, I ask myself:

Could I imagine Star Trek going down the same road in TOS for an episode?

Then I imagine an episode where McCoy is turned Vulcan and starts annoying Spock by being better at it than he is.

TOS is ever so irreverent at times and SNW does a better job of tapping into that than any other Star Trek show ever.