Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Cyrus]

Scifi author Andy Weir posted the following on Facebook. I am not familiar with Voyagers TV series (from 1982). Was this a homage to that show or just a coincidence?

 

[dcm]

And what specifically gives you this feeling? Name a scene or line. Also how much writing by “upper middle-class kids” have you read? And how did you know their societal and financial status? Do you teach Creative Writing at some upper middle-class school? You seem to regurgitate talking points that you may have heard somewhere, but lack any first hand knowledge or experience with them. The age old attitude that modern “kids” are soft, weak and never struggled. Again broad generalizations that lack substance.

I wanted to be a writer once too. And almost all the students in class, came from middle/upper-middle class backgrounds, who had rich parents, and zero life experience, and couldn't write for shit. They couldn't empathize or 'walk a mile in another man's shoes.' Yeah sure they could write about the gay/queer experience authentically. But anything outside that purview was awful. Their writing was; flat, fake, disingenuous, petty, spiteful, hateful, egotistical and/or narcissistic. I am very familiar with that type of writing because it infests hollywood today(she hulk anyone?).I lost all interest in writing and changed my major.

I’m sorry, when exactly did I “hate on the past?”
Depends, was it my power to effect change? Was it something beyond my control? Did I stand by and do nothing when someone was murdered? Did I turn a blind eye to abuse? Did I ignore the suffering of my fellowman because I wasn’t suffering? Complicated question.

Do you think that it's okay, for star trek characters to shit on our time, for being 'backwards and primitive?'

 

[Mudd]

I wanted to be a writer once too. And....I lost all interest in writing and changed my major.

Harlan Ellison remarked, more than once, that anyone who could be discouraged from writing should be.

He was right.

Do you think that it's okay, for star trek characters to shit on our time, for being 'backwards and primitive?'

Sure, why not? Because you don't like it?

People do it all the time.

 

[HotRod]

I am very familiar with that type of writing because it infests hollywood today(she hulk anyone?).

Ohhhhhh..... You're one of those......

Lol.

 

[Hythlodeus]

I lost all interest in writing

then why are you still writing? don't promise to stop if you don't intend to follow that promise

 

[The Wormhole]

I wanted to be a writer once too. And almost all the students in class, came from middle/upper-middle class backgrounds, who had rich parents, and zero life experience, and couldn't write for shit. They couldn't empathize or 'walk a mile in another man's shoes.' Yeah sure they could write about the gay/queer experience authentically. But anything outside that purview was awful. Their writing was; flat, fake, disingenuous, petty, spiteful, hateful, egotistical and/or narcissistic. I am very familiar with that type of writing because it infests hollywood today(she hulk anyone?).I lost all interest in writing and changed my major.

Ah, you're someone with an axe to grind, got it.

And She-Hulk was all kinds of awesome.

 

[cooleddie74]

I wanted to be a writer once too. And almost all the students in class, came from middle/upper-middle class backgrounds, who had rich parents, and zero life experience, and couldn't write for shit. They couldn't empathize or 'walk a mile in another man's shoes.' Yeah sure they could write about the gay/queer experience authentically. But anything outside that purview was awful. Their writing was; flat, fake, disingenuous, petty, spiteful, hateful, egotistical and/or narcissistic. I am very familiar with that type of writing because it infests hollywood today(she hulk anyone?).I lost all interest in writing and changed my major.


Do you think that it's okay, for star trek characters to shit on our time, for being 'backwards and primitive?'

You should check out my new short story. The World's Tiniest Violin.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Scifi author Andy Weir posted the following on Facebook. I am not familiar with Voyagers TV series (from 1982). Was this a homage to that show or just a coincidence?

That was the first thing that came to mind as well. The Temporal Police use Omni's - but with a Vulcan/Romulan motif!

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I wanted to be a writer once too. And almost all the students in class, came from middle/upper-middle class backgrounds, who had rich parents, and zero life experience, and couldn't write for shit. They couldn't empathize or 'walk a mile in another man's shoes.' Yeah sure they could write about the gay/queer experience authentically. But anything outside that purview was awful. Their writing was; flat, fake, disingenuous, petty, spiteful, hateful, egotistical and/or narcissistic. I am very familiar with that type of writing because it infests hollywood today(she hulk anyone?).I lost all interest in writing and changed my major.

You could stop writing stuff on this board too. Nobody would be sad.

 

[fireproof78]

Do you think that it's okay, for star trek characters to shit on our time, for being 'backwards and primitive?'

Yes.

Just because I disagree doesn't mean people shouldn't say it.

I wanted to be a writer once too

What's stopping you now? You clearly have more experience that may give you an edge.

One of my family members doesn't have a writing degree, but still published a novel themselves.

 

[cooleddie74]

You definitely don't need a degree in writing or the creative arts to publish something. My Mom published poetry and short stories earlier in her life and didn't have a degree in anything that suggested "writer."

 

[DaveyNY]

It very much sounds like there is a lot of self-hate going on with that one.

And a bit of implied rejection?

 

[Wingcommanderdarkwolf01]

I wanted to be a writer once too. And almost all the students in class, came from middle/upper-middle class backgrounds, who had rich parents, and zero life experience, and couldn't write for shit. They couldn't empathize or 'walk a mile in another man's shoes.' Yeah sure they could write about the gay/queer experience authentically. But anything outside that purview was awful. Their writing was; flat, fake, disingenuous, petty, spiteful, hateful, egotistical and/or narcissistic. I am very familiar with that type of writing because it infests hollywood today(she hulk anyone?).I lost all interest in writing and changed my major.


Do you think that it's okay, for star trek characters to shit on our time, for being 'backwards and primitive?'

 

[cooleddie74]

 

[Captain Jollydark]

I wanted to be a writer once too. And almost all the students in class, came from middle/upper-middle class backgrounds, who had rich parents, and zero life experience, and couldn't write for shit. They couldn't empathize or 'walk a mile in another man's shoes.' Yeah sure they could write about the gay/queer experience authentically. But anything outside that purview was awful. Their writing was; flat, fake, disingenuous, petty, spiteful, hateful, egotistical and/or narcissistic. I am very familiar with that type of writing because it infests hollywood today(she hulk anyone?).I lost all interest in writing and changed my major.


Do you think that it's okay, for star trek characters to shit on our time, for being 'backwards and primitive?'

Dude. I understand your bitterness, I also hear you about how difficult it is to break in without connections. It's true that it's easier to be a writer in Hollywood right now if you already have an income (this is part of the reason for the strike}. Poverty can certainly be a limitation but if you are a writer YOU WRITE. I come from poverty and I'm a published author. As long as you don't expect to make a living off of it you can do okay.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Do you think that it's okay, for star trek characters to shit on our time, for being 'backwards and primitive?'

I love when they do it.

 

[cooleddie74]

I grew up in the 1980s. So yes, when McCoy shits on 1980s hospital culture I'm fine with it.

 

[DaveyNY]

I was actually working in a hospital back then.

He wasn't very far off.

 

[137th Gebirg]

 

[Noname Given]

I grew up in the 1980s. So yes, when McCoy shits on 1980s hospital culture I'm fine with it.

I went to College in the 80s, and I too was fine with it.