Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Noname Given]

It seemed to be the first time Spock and T'Pring had been together since both were seven. Of course since TOS never says that explicitly the SNW writers can run with it, but at this point I'm just glad they seem to be getting relatively minor things like T'Pring's hair right. It's a victory of a hundred small steps with these producers.

That was just a fan opinion much like the fan assumption that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet Academy.

T'Pring was obviously following Spock's career, as she stated that Spock had become much known among Vulcans, "Almost a legend..".

As for Spock doing things off camera, in TOS S2 Journey To Babel" , tarek's wife Amanda makes the comment to spock that: "...you haven't come to see us in 4 years..."
^^^
So it's not like fans have seen every minute of Spock's life aboard the 1701 during his service in Starfleet. Amanda also makes the comment that the 'Vulcan way', " has kept Spock and Sarek from speaking as father and son for 18 years..."
^^^
And a lot of fans interpreted that to mean that Spock and sarek have never spoken to each other in that time; but I would posit they have spoken as colleagues and as needed a given situation at home or in Starfleet no, but they just haven't spoken directly as a father and son might be expected to; they've always kept it extremely formal.

Bottom line I don't think it's fair to infer that the only time Spock and T'Pring were ever together after the initial joining ceremony was when Spock showed up again on Vulcan to go through the Ponn Far ceremony. When T'Pring's image appeared on the Enterprise viewscreen, they knew they were both effectively in public, and therefore they kept to what was traditionally required, hence the lines they both recited.

Hell yeah, if they happened to show Spock and T'Pring speaking together in private on an episode of Strange New Worlds, it's hardly a Canon violation here.

 

[cooleddie74]

Clearly Spock didn't care about his own pon farr cycle since he was involved with Leila Kalomi in 2261 and that was two or more years after the upcoming appearance of T'Pring in SNW. Spock rolls as he gets opportunities.

 

[UssGlenn]

So it's not like fans have seen every minute of Spock's life aboard the 1701 during his service in Starfleet. Amanda also makes the comment that the 'Vulcan way', " has kept Spock and Sarek from speaking as father and son for 18 years..."
^^^
And a lot of fans interpreted that to mean that Spock and sarek have never spoken to each other in that time; but I would posit they have spoken as colleagues and as needed a given situation at home or in Starfleet no, but they just haven't spoken directly as a father and son might be expected to; they've always kept it extremely formal.

That's the only way to interpret it. There is no need for "as father and son" otherwise. It also allows for some humorous situations. "Please pass the salt Ambassador Sarek".

I have always been a little confused about how "the Vulcan way" causes Spock and Sarek's disagreement about him joining Starfleet to become a decision to keep their relationship formal.

 

[Rahul]

That looks pretty great!
I like a lot of what I'm seeing. I really dig that "retro-futurism" aesthetic.

What will make or break this show though will be the stories. The other shows had the problem of bad season arcs - always felt like a mediocre 2-hour plot stretched out over 13 hours.

If they can manage to tell a satisfying story within 50 minutes every week - this his the potential to be really, really good!
I really look forward to this show.

 

[NCC-73515]

It's definitely his first blood fever, but there's nothing preventing other earlier ceremonies/different biological events. However, I'm not sure the writers can thread that needle to our satisfaction, guess we will find out.

A still quite young version (teen?) needed Saavik's helping hand in SFS...

 

[UssGlenn]

A still quite young version (teen?) needed Saavik's helping hand in SFS...

I thought someone might mention that. We can't assume the accelerated maturation on the Genesis Planet matches what happened originally. Note that new Spock only has that one pon farr, he doesn't have one when he was older like original Spock.

 

[NCC-73515]

Or we just didn't see it, just like we never saw him shave

 

[F. King Daniel]

Paul Wesley plays a Starfleet captain (missing one boot) in an episode.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Paul Wesley plays a Starfleet captain (missing one boot) in an episode.

Just showed this to my daughter, and now she wants to watch Strange New Worlds!

 

[fireproof78]

Paul Wesley plays a Starfleet captain (missing one boot) in an episode.

Who?

 

[cooleddie74]

The Vampire Diaries. Never watched it. Couldn't tell you how good he was.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Who?

A Vampire Diary.

 

[fireproof78]

The Vampire Diaries. Never watched it. Couldn't tell you how good he was.

A Vampire Diary.

Never heard of it. I will assume this is a show for teens?

 

[eschaton]

Never heard of the dude, but he looks so much more like Jeffrey Hunter than Mount does.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Never heard of it. I will assume this is a show for teens?

Yup. ‪‪I watched it a little with my niece years ago, It wasn’t bad at first, melodramatic, but fun at least.

I think it suffered from one of the same issues that many genre shows pitched to a younger audience end up having, it just kept going on, and its characters, relationships and storylines would be built up, then reversed/undone, ad nauseum.

It was successful enough for The CW that it’s had two spin offs, one still going currently, and it has a fairly sizable following still. Could be a good draw to bring in some younger viewers who might not have watched otherwise, as @KirkusOveractus intimated.

 

[Rahul]

I really hope they're not making him a young Cpt. Kirk

 

[fireproof78]

I really hope they're not making him a young Cpt. Kirk

I doubt it. It's a poor fit if so.

 

[cooleddie74]

Kirk's also not a Captain until around 2264 so this would be way too early for James Kirk to have a rank that high.

 

[Danlav05]

Is he too young to be Commodore Robert April?

 

[cooleddie74]

He could still be a Captain. April is greying by 2270 as seen in TAS but ten or eleven years can make all the difference in one's hair color. But my guess is he's too young to be Robert April unless they have a really good explanation for a man in his fifties or sixties by the time of SNW still looking like he's thirtysomething.