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All Pike has to do is resign before getting promoted to try to avert the accident
I don't think he really saw his own uniform though, and the other people on the ship just called him "captain", so for all he knows this could happen any day now.
 
It's still extremely problematic that Pike knows about it at all. What he does know gives him enough info to try to prevent it. He was in a Fleet Captain's uniform and still in Starfleet. All Pike has to do is resign before getting promoted to try to avert the accident. Doesn't help that in the Cage he already had thoughts about ditching starfleet.
Pike has accepted that his vision has to happen as a "payment" if you will for the time crystal. Because of that, he will not intentionally do anything that could prevent that vision from coming to pass.
 
Queue another timestream split! :D

I mean, seriously, if the Pike show winds up being super-popular (as current buzz and multi-generational fanbase enthusiasm would indicate it's potentially going to be), they're going to have problems essentially destroying the character to fit canon.

Either his accident will be the series finale or... Something else with time magic...er...crystals. Or...hmmm...queue Gary Seven? Q? The snapping of the right kind of fingers will fix a multitude of canonical and temporal sins.
 
Pike has accepted that his vision has to happen as a "payment" if you will for the time crystal. Because of that, he will not intentionally do anything that could prevent that vision from coming to pass.
Starfleet captains are so trusting of everything a random alien tells them? Tenavik might be a nice guy but for all Pike knows Tenavik was mistaken.

Boreth monks aren't above lying anyway, as seen a century later with their Kahless clone they presented as the real deal.
 
All Pike has to do is resign before getting promoted to try to avert the accident.

He's been there.

Not for you. A man either lives life as it happens to him, meets it head-on, and licks it, or he turns his back on it and starts to wither away.

The only question for him is, how much is he willing to die before he gets to the support chair?
 
SNW will air on CTV Sci-Fi in Canada, just like Discovery, Picard and Lower Decks
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It's still extremely problematic that Pike knows about it at all. What he does know gives him enough info to try to prevent it. He was in a Fleet Captain's uniform and still in Starfleet. All Pike has to do is resign before getting promoted to try to avert the accident. Doesn't help that in the Cage he already had thoughts about ditching starfleet.
It's inevitable. They said in the DSC episode once you witness the future it will happen, it's set in stone.
Plus he's a Starfleet captain, he would never avoid responsibility. He knows he'll need to save those Cadets, it would be irresponsible of him to try and avoid it.
 
Being a Fleet Captain not assigned to any specific ship didn't save him. I doubt resigning his commission would help. He'd probably just get drafted back in for the rescue mission because he knows something about the J-class training ships nobody else does and whammo: Wheelchair Pike as we saw him in TOS.
 
Plus he's a Starfleet captain, he would never avoid responsibility. He knows he'll need to save those Cadets, it would be irresponsible of him to try and avoid it.
This is the same Starfleet captain that in 2254 was seriously considering becoming an Orion slave trader. Even if he knew the Orions' "secret" (that the women were in charge), he'd still be involved in helping the Orion Syndicate use these women to take over the minds of men across the galaxy.
 
Pike before DSC was clearly a man struggling with issues and he didn't mature into a more enlightened mindset until at least his first apperance on the new series.
 
"The Cage" takes place long before GR started spouting off about Utopia. In reality, Star Trek is founded upon romantic notions of the age of European exploration (read: exploitation) and the American WIld West. That is the DNA that Roddenberry's eventual desire to be seen as a homely philosopher and idealist has never quite erased. Hence, Pike's galaxy was an unruly, dangerous and doubtless morally compromised place in so many respects.

It's a nice bit of serendipity that the pilot wound up being presented in continuity as a story taking place nearly a generation before the adventures of Kirk and company, and largely involving a different cast of characters.
 
And with catastrophic historical events like the battle at Axanar also happening roughly within this time frame it's easier to see the galaxy as more unstable and lawless in "The Cage(TOS)." We're less than a century removed from the Earth-Romulan War and there are probably still more than a few people who were alive for and remember the founding of the Federation. It's within the lifetimes of some to see space as, well, a dangerous and savage frontier.

I have no problems believing that the Federation and the wider known galaxy were on shakier ground in 2254.
 
They really should have just rebooted it. And that is the one black mark I hold against Discovery and SNW.

That's the lazy way out! SNW is fine, they have at least 5 years of continuity with which to use, which is more than enough.
 
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