Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Mudd]

I watched Galaxy Quest one time, and don´t liked.
It isn´t popular here in Brasil. As I said, some movies fits very well inside the culture of your native country, but not all around the world.

Well, you know something...Star Trek is written with the American audience in mind. There are hundreds of idiosyncratic things about it that are derived from American culture and directed at Americans.

And it has never really moved away from that in any significant way.

It's Paramount's great good luck that people around the world have responded to Trek the way they have. But it's not different from the long-time international popularity of the American Western genre.

 

[Mudd]

I wasn't part of the Fandom when it came out, but I wonder what Buffy fans thought at the time that "Once More, With Feeling" was announced. I was amazed at how much arc advancement that episode actually had. I know SNW is episodic in nature, but I'm excited for it mainly because it is different, and I like original songs. The franchise will actually do something they have never done before. If it works, we might look at this as a pivitol moment for Star Trek in 10 or 20 years from now.

SNW is a turning point for Trek in significant respects.

I was saying elsewhere on the board earlier today that Trek's ability to embrace and be expressed through so many genres is a tremendous difference between it as a property and Star Wars. The two are not as alike, at their cores, as they often appear to be.

 

[FederationHistorian]

I wish there was more than 10 episodes. 13-15 seems to be a sweet spot (Discovery has 13 episode seasons). We're almost done with Season 2 of SNW and it still feels like it just started.

I vote for 15 episodes. As if my vote would count for anything to the producers.

Extending to 13-15 episodes a season would be fine.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, I mean most Star Trek series leads are American characters even if the actors were born in another country. Both TV Captain Pikes are American from the Mojave region of the U.S. Southwest, Kirk is from Riverside, Iowa, Sisko is from New Orleans, Janeway is from Bloomington, Indiana and Archer is from upstate New York.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Archer is from upstate New York.

And San Francisco.

 

[Mudd]

https://www.upr.org/2023-07-24/set-...k-musical-episode-is-coming-to-paramount-plus

 

[cooleddie74]

And San Francisco.

Yep. In the pilot they establish the San Francisco area as where he's from but later retcon his birthplace as upstate New York. And both are canon.

 

[Commander Troi]

I wasn't part of the Fandom when it came out, but I wonder what Buffy fans thought at the time that "Once More, With Feeling" was announced. I was amazed at how much arc advancement that episode actually had.

Myself and those I knew who watched Buffy were a bit scared. Previously, musical episodes were often "jump the shark" points for TV shows. However, when it actually came out, I think most of us were blown away by how incredibly well it was done.

 

[Tuskin38]

Funny how (IMO) two of the best episodes of buffy were the opposites. One where no-one spoke at all (Hush), and one where everyone sings lol

 

[Omegaphallic]

I vote for 15 episodes. As if my vote would count for anything to the producers.

I'd vote 20 to 26 episodes.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yep. In the pilot they establish the San Francisco area as where he's from but later retcon his birthplace as upstate New York. And both are canon.

I assume it's like my own situation. I was born in Georgia but only lived there for about two years. Spent the next decade bouncing between Texas and Japan. Finally settled in California when my father retired from the Air Force. If asked, I say I'm from California.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, he's a native upstate New Yorker but spent so much time in flight training and later Starfleet Training in or around San Francisco he also considers California to be his stomping grounds. He and his dad may have left New York State by the time Henry and Zefram Cochrane dedicated the Warp Five Complex.

 

[Yistaan]

Yeah, he's a native upstate New Yorker but spent so much time in flight training and later Starfleet Training in or around San Francisco he also considers California to be his stomping grounds. He and his dad may have left New York State by the time Henry and Zefram Cochrane dedicated the Warp Five Complex.

Henry Archer's biography is a mess. He apparently died when Jonathan was 12, but is elsewhere said that he gave Jonathan advice for flight school. Maybe Jonathan's a kid pilot like Anakin Skywalker?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Henry Archer's biography is a mess. He apparently died when Jonathan was 12, but is elsewhere said that he gave Jonathan advice for flight school. Maybe Jonathan's a kid pilot like Anakin Skywalker?

Kids can get flight training,

Am I eligible for a student pilot certificate?
You are eligible if:

• You are at least 16 years old. If you plan to pilot a glider or balloon, you must be at least 14 years old.
• You can read, speak, and understand English

Might be different in the 22nd Century.

 

[cooleddie74]

My guess is he died in 2122 or 2123 and Jonathan had already started childhood flight training. He was already building models of 21st century spaceships in the opening sequence of "Broken Bow" and that was before the Warp Five Complex was dedicated (2119).

 

[The Wormhole]

Funny how (IMO) two of the best episodes of buffy were the opposites. One where no-one spoke at all (Hush), and one where everyone sings lol

What I always find interesting is that Buffy did an episode at each extreme of the musical spectrum, a full-on musical episode and an episode with absolutely no music at all (the one where her mom died).

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm watching "Once More With Feeling" for the first time. right now.

 

[Yistaan]

Spock: In the middle of the Earth, in a land called Shire, there's brave little hobbit who we all admire--

Chapel: And do I dream again? For now I find... the Vulcan of the Enterprise is there! Inside my mind!!!

Klingon Ambassador: Look down, look down, you'll always be a slave! Look down, look down, you're standing in your grave!

 

[cooleddie74]

Recording of the late Admiral Archer: "It's been a long road...getting from there to here."

 

[Tuskin38]

and an episode with absolutely no music at all (the one where her mom died).

Huh, I don't think I ever noticed that.