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Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

When I was a kid and teen, I didn't like TOS much. I actually did think back then that they should make the pylons and hull texture more like the refit, cause they looked silly to me. With every movie, the interiors got better, and the TOS ones were the worst. Then I got older and got more immersed in the whole universe, watching everything, most of it several times, and reading all the tech manuals, collecting almost all the FF issues, getting all the ship models and prop replicas I could get. And it made sense and fit into a chronology. This is how the ship looked in 2266. Same look in all these books, all episodes set in that time, all models of that ship looking consistent. Then along comes a new show that, for the first time, says that the ship actually looked different. Like all the books, magazines, models, and episodes were 'wrong'. Like the chronology of the Enterprise lineage is a 'lie' and never was true. So when confronted with dozens of consistent versions of "that's the Enterprise in 2266", and one different one, the outlier is the 'wrong' one in my mind. Does that help understand where I'm coming from?
The same feeling comes up to a lesser degree when throwaway minor things don't match. When Disco has synthehol 100 years before Data, a living library, introduced it as a new thing to Scotty, it basically says Data, the walking database, is lying.
When Sisko calls the 1701 the first Enterprise, and then ENT says nope, it says Sisko doesn't know his Enterprises. But these things can be explained away with being a preliminary synthehol before the 'real', much more successful synthehol comes along, or Scotty simply not knowing about it cause he always drinks real booze, and with the NX-01 being somewhat ignored (as even suggested on the show when they said Samuels is trying to take all the credit) and the 1701 still being the first Federation Enterprise (since Sisko obviously also didn't mean the naval ships). The Vulcans being aggressive, lying, spying, bad guys was really irritating as well, but then they provided a wonderful explanation and showed how they changed when the Kir'Shara was found. Now it matched with the rest of how Vulcans were depicted. Does anyone find that trilogy unnecessary because no explanation was required? These are my thoughts on that whole issue, and I hope some of it might finally make sense to y'all :beer:


For the millionth time. "Visual continuity" and "canon" aren't the same thing. They never have been and they never will be.

Why is it the end of the world if something is redesigned?
Is canon only non-visual, non-auditory information? Only the scripts?

Who said it's the end of the world? Perhaps seeing the many shades of gray instead of pure black and white (hyperbolic!) thinking would help move this along before it really does reach a million cycles ;)
 
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Is canon only non-visual, non-auditory information? Only the scripts?
"Canon" refers to a set of productions that the owner of the intellectual property declares to be "officially" part of the franchise. That's it. They can declare the first two seasons of The Next Generation non-canon and then they would be non-canon. Just like how Disney threw out all Star Wars novels from before the takeover.
 
I think we might get a teaser for Obi-Wan Kenobi on Sunday but SNW? Who knows....
If anything from Trek I would suspect Picard S2 stuff........but hey........who knows? Fingers crossed......I am way more excited about SNW. And OBW :-)
 
Yeah I think they'll focus on making Picard S2 seem like the most important thing to look forward to, until it's out and they can switch to SNW.
 
Yeah I think they'll focus on making Picard S2 seem like the most important thing to look forward to, until it's out and they can switch to SNW.
Yup. I can't imagine much in the way of promos for SNW with it being out in May. Obi-Wan Kenobi just got a poster today. So they are right in line with industry standards for releasing information.

The less information the better.
 
Yup. I can't imagine much in the way of promos for SNW with it being out in May. Obi-Wan Kenobi just got a poster today. So they are right in line with industry standards for releasing information.

The less information the better.
It's a huge audience though........I could maybe see a Picard trailer with 10 seconds of SNW hype at the end.......
 
It's a huge audience though........I could maybe see a Picard trailer with 10 seconds of SNW hype at the end.......
Paramount plus isn't going to spend major marketing money advertising a show that's not due out for 3 months, when they have another show that's due out in less than a month. They want to focus on the show that is next in line to premiere. That would be Picard.

The only reason they released so much info info on Strange New Worlds at the Television Critics Association gathering was because it's an annual event where multiple media outlets talk about their longer-term plans for the remainder of the current TV season. Said season usually goes through June of a given year.
 
Paramount plus isn't going to spend major marketing money advertising a show that's not due out for 3 months, when they have another show that's due out in less than a month. They want to focus on the show that is next in line to premiere. That would be Picard.

The only reason they released so much info info on Strange New Worlds at the Television Critics Association gathering was because it's an annual event where multiple media outlets talk about their longer-term plans for the remainder of the current TV season. Said season usually goes through June of a given year.
Oh I KNOW........but I AM THIRSTY!!
 
"Canon" refers to a set of productions that the owner of the intellectual property declares to be "officially" part of the franchise. That's it. They can declare the first two seasons of The Next Generation non-canon and then they would be non-canon. Just like how Disney threw out all Star Wars novels from before the takeover.
Do these sets of productions exclude the picture, the video, the very film itself? You wrote that canon has nothing ever ever to do with the visuals, so what else is it then?
 
And if that is so, pictures from work presented on screen are in the canon, and books containing such pictures show canonical stuff. :shrug:
 
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