There are several forms to fill out -- in Klingon of course. And then there's the ceremonial relinquishing of one's IDIC pin, where it is submerged in a vat of green apple Kool-Aid at the altar of Roddenberry.
You have to turn in your DVDs, old tapes, merchandise and autographed items for inventory and indefinite storage.*What would leaving a franchise even entail? Deciding to not consider yourself a fan anymore?
A franchise is like the mafia. It's like the cartel. Once you're in, you're in.What would leaving a franchise even entail? Deciding to not consider yourself a fan anymore?
That was 100% the point. It was showing the stupidity and self destructiveness of blind fanaticism.and I thought the plot of the Romulans destroying their own rescue fleet because some androids were helping to build it to be completely nonsensical
That was 100% the point. It was showing the stupidity and self destructiveness of blind fanaticism.
... or maybe the experience of seeing his future, altered his body chemistry just enough to bring out the gray sooner.In-story reason: Pike just decided that he didn't want to keep dying it.
There are several forms to fill out -- in Klingon of course. And then there's the ceremonial relinquishing of one's IDIC pin, where it is submerged in a vat of green apple Kool-Aid at the altar of Roddenberry.
Yeah, even as a little girl I got that. And I hated it.Except if you actually watch the episode, it's pretty clear that Lester was referring to the fact that because she was a woman, Starfleet wouldn't let her be a captain, because Starfleet doesn't allow females to be starship captains. One of the many dated aspects of TOS.
Stress and worry from having seen his future? I see that as a possibility. Look how much greyer every president (except those with fake hairSo you tell me: What logical reason would there be to make Pike's hair significantly more gray since the last time we saw him, if the show was meant to pick up right where DSC season 2 left off?
The I, Robot movie is not based on Asimov's book of short stories. The studio gave it that title. Which is why I'll probably never watch it.I, Robot is unfairly maligned. It's a solid robot story especially considering the source material is a series of separate short stories.
Tron with a box and lighter
Did it hurt?I've had an epiphany
There are several forms to fill out -- in Klingon of course. And then there's the ceremonial relinquishing of one's IDIC pin, where it is submerged in a vat of green apple Kool-Aid at the altar of Roddenberry.
Yeah, even as a little girl I got that. And I hated it.![]()
Stress and worry from having seen his future? I see that as a possibility. Look how much greyer every president (except those with fake hair) is every year they're in office.
IIRC, Pike made his peace with that on DIS. Someone have the exact lines?Well, that's certainly a possibility. The real problem with that scenario, though, is that if Pike saw his future as a burned husk confined to a mechanical chair that could only beep yes or no, don't you think he'd take steps to avoid that scenario from happening? That's the problem with time travel and Pike retroactively knowing his fate.
IIRC, Pike made his peace with that on DIS. Someone have the exact lines?
Me too.Then Pike's a better man than I (or a more stupid one, take your pick.) If I was shown my future and saw that I was horribly injured in an accident, you'd better believe I'd do everything in my power to avoid going down that road.
IIRC, Pike made his peace with that on DIS. Someone have the exact lines?
Tenavik said:You may still choose to walk away from this future. But if you take the crystal, your fate will be sealed, forever.
There will be no escaping it.
Pike said:(panting) (whispering) You're a Starfleet Captain. You believe in service, sacrifice, compassion... in love.
No. I'm not going to abandon the things that make me who I am because of a future... that contains an ending that I hadn't foreseen for myself.
No. Give it to me.
You turn in your communicator badge and phaser and leave them on the boss's desk at the end of your shift.What would leaving a franchise even entail?
That was 100% the point. It was showing the stupidity and self destructiveness of blind fanaticism.
Here's the thing: You're both right and yet both wrong and thus have perfectly demonstrated the core problem with Kurtzman Trek.The point of the show was about Picard being vindicated for calling Starfleet a bunch of assholes and ruining his friend Raffi’s life, saying a proper bye-bye to Data than what we got in Nemesis, and getting a teary and emotion-filled death only to be resurrected with a deus ex machina courtesy of his pal Spiner in a new role.
And rightly so.Yeah, even as a little girl I got that. And I hated it.![]()
I don't know about that, Goldsman has more direct creative control over SNW than he did on Discovery. I'm taking a wait an see attitude.
which is not a good thing if picard was any indication...
Don't forget he's an Academy Award winning writer for "A Beautiful Mind". Some of his other critically acclaimed movies include The Client (his first writing job), A Time to Kill, and Cinderella Man (BAFTA-nominated). Goldsman is phenomenal when he tells down-to-earth stories or those from real life figures. But even some of the goofy stuff above, and other less-than-highly acclaimed work like The Da Vinci Code movies or that Divergent sequel still rake in money at the box office, which is the number that CBS is looking for.
We've never had such a highly awarded figure behind the scenes since Robert Wise.
Fan service is what Star Trek has become, for better or worse. For me, for worse.
Yep.
Some STD fans have this strawman critic they like to pretend represents the Trek audience who find the Burnham show lacking - like the problem is with infidelity to details of continuity.
That's not why most people don't bother with the show. If a show can tell good stories with some competence, in an entertaining way, very few people will fret the details.
STD has rarely managed that for as much as a week. People dislike and make fun of it because it's lame, dumb TV.
Who determines what counts as a good, competent story?
This is almost cute. Who determines what counts as a good, competent story?
TNG and DS9 must have been lame and dumb as well since parts of the fandom were crying and bitching back then, mind you, without modern social media.
Sure, most people don't bother with DSC, it failed. Everything since season 2 is a cover-up, true fans know that.
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