Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x02 - "Children of The Comet"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Serveaux, May 6, 2022.

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  1. 10 - Excellent

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  1. Ensign Mas

    Ensign Mas Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Well, that is true.

    That is also true, but it changed from General Order 1 to the Prime Directive so more formalized.
     
  2. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Garth of Algar Premium Member

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    And? No matter what it's called it gets bent, battered and broken all of the time. It's a plot point designed to create drama and conflict for our heroes.
     
  3. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Screw General Order One.
     
  4. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    A lot of Picard's behavior in early TNG is questionable but the way he's just willing to let Sarjenka in the Selcundi Drema system die because, well, rules and good reasons is one of the character's lowpoints. At least Data and the frequently-maligned Dr. Pulaski stand up for violating the Prime Directive and rescuing her, the rules be damned.
     
  5. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    Looking at it again, with the 2 sets of heavy doors, I'd lean back towards shuttlebay or airlock. Have the blueprints ever mentioned cargo turbolifts?
     
  6. cooleddie74

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    My guess is it's one of the doors to the main hangar deck or perhaps the airlock between the two impulse exhausts.
     
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  7. Jack Wolfe

    Jack Wolfe Captain Captain

    I half expected Picard to tell Data, "Look, I'm not entirely unsympathetic to their plight. We have a gas, it smells just like applesauce. They won't feel a thing."
     
  8. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    For all the shit Pulaski gets from some fans she exhibited more humanity in some episodes than Picard did.
     
  9. Noname Given

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    That's because she was a complete rip-off of Doctor Leonard McCoy; a character who was often very emotional and always had his heart in the right place even when he got somewhat irrational at times.

    Diana Muldaur played the character in the same fashion, except when the writers attempted to recreate the Spock/McCoy relationship with Pulaski/Data.

    The latter didn't work well because unlike Mr. Spock, Data was more akin to a naïve child. Spock could always give as good as he got in an exchange with McCoy. When the same dynamic with Pulaski and Data, it really just came across as a form of verbal abuse.
     
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  10. Belz...

    Belz... Commodore Commodore

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    I'll never understand why people have such strong reactions to fiction.
    Perhaps setting aside the desire for "canon" to be maintained would help you appreciate this one a bit more.
    Just food for thought: Boyce was already old five years prior to this so it's reasonable to expect that he retired. In fact, all of your criticisms are superficial rather than story-related.
     
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  11. GNDN18

    GNDN18 270 Rear Admiral

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    I’d prefer “homage”, but as you wish.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    That's literally a rephrasing of terms.

    Prime: first importance. Some might use One in place of first.
    Directive: a command or instruction. Order is similarly defined.

    The terminology is different; the meaning is the same.
     
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  14. Dar70

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    I liked this ep more than the first one. Had an TAS feel to it...
     
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    Roald Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    ‘Garbage’….?
    Sorry, I just don’t believe this is your honest opinion.
     
  17. Mr. Nova

    Mr. Nova Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Spock's telepathy was always portrayed as being somewhat limited. In "Taste of Armageddon", he had to search for the location of the guard by touching the door and feeling his way along. Even then he was only able to send an impression, not a full telepathic message, IIRC. With Cloud William's mate, it apparently took quite a bit of effort on his part to send his suggestion. Not the easy communication of a full telepath. With non-telepathic species he always required touch to explicitly communicate, as far as I can remember. That is what was implied all throughout TOS and beyond. Tuvok's assertion to the contrary seems to be the exception rather than the rule, easily explained as a writer's misunderstanding of Vulcan abilities.

    In "Random Thoughts" Tuvok was on a planet of full telepaths, so he was able to communicate freely with them. If he had been able to do it with humans he would never have had to ask Janeway what she planned to do, or ask Neelix what in the heck he was talking about. T'Pol's link with Trip was more of a psychic link, initiated by their earlier intimacy. The only communications they had telepathically was in semi-dream states, almost trance-like.

    The Aenar, on the other hand, were portrayed as having exceptional telepathic abilities that could span light-years. They had to develop ethical limits and probably mental disciplines to actually block the onslaught of telepathic bombardment of others' thoughts.
    Of course, all of this is based on my own memory and is my personal opinion. :)
     
  18. fireproof78

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    Once you see the phrase "real Trek" used that should be a signal to not take it seriously, at all.
     
  19. Tuskin38

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    Nothing you posted here 'defys' canon.
     
  20. Belz...

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    *Defies. ;)
     
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