Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x02 - "Children of The Comet"
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Another 9 from me (Very close to a 10, but yeah, IDK if I'm just fan geeking out because this is SO MUCH my kind of Star Trek that I've been waiting for since TOS ended.)
I LOVE the way the are doing all the characters and character dynamics and dialogue. In general each character has their own voice and speech style being catered to; and it's not all banal dialogue that could be mixed and matched to any character standing around (which for me was how TNG came across more often than not with characters speaking in the Berman Trek era.)
My BIGGEST complaint? I LOVED when the 1701 had blue ship's Phaser beams in STD S2; so I'm disappointed they've gone to reddish/orange.(Also interesting that the aliens weapons fire color in the final streamed episode was different from that in the pre-series SNW Trailers. Shows just how much of a WIP everything is until it airs.)
Also a bit disappointed their going with calling out Shield Strength percentages in space combat. They did that once in TOS (TOS S2 - "The Changeling"); but I really just wish they'd have gone with the TOS style of Up of Down "Holding"/"Weakening" - but it's a new era and have to cater to the videogame crowd I guess.
LOVED the rest - and how it ties more into Pike's personal arc. I'm also happy they're back to the ORIGINAL version of the Prime Directive that allows them to divert Comets/Save primitive civilizations as long as they don't reveal themselves. They openly did that in TOS S3 - "The Paradise Syndrome" and I like that they're back to that interpretation instead of having a stodgy old future Captain pontificate on how the PD 'ties their hands' is such situations. I LOVE how Pike embraces technicalities when it allows him to do something good/needed.
But yeah so far a really, really solid first two episodes - excited for more.
I liked that they got away from the star wars pew pew lasers and went back to the traditional beam phaser for the ship. I hope the hand held phasers are the same.
Now there's a parallel I should have noticed and didn't.
Think about it, you know exactly when in the future your "Bad End" will happen, that means whatever decisions between now & then happen; you end up ok.
Ergo Captain Pike can afford to take risks because he knows the ultimate outcome. That knowledge of potential fate is INCREDIBLY powerful. It's like knowing the answers to all the questions on a test.
What other "Fore Knowledge" did he gain thanks to the Time Crystal on Boreth?
He has shown that he gains the (When? Where? Whom? How?) of his Critical Juncture in time.
What else did he gain from his future self? Memories of the 10 years prior?
I concur on the Ships needing solid beams.
The Pew Pew Bolts works fine with Small Arms for officers IMO.
Standing there for a few seconds while holding the beam still is asking to get shot in retaliation.
For Small Arms Combat between Person vs Anything else, shoot & scoot is important.
If you're a fixed turret of some form, solid beams or streaks are fine.
They're not, we've seen them in trailers.
They've been using beams in the new series on (large) ships that since DSC Season 2.
Small ships, shuttles and fighters like ships are still using bolts. Though Seven's ship in Picard S1 had beams.
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Love, love, love this episode. The first had to set up SNW, and did a great job. This was an excellent Trek of the week episode in a bottle, I do like how they're layering together a season plot but really the episode stands on its own two feet. Really enjoyed the novel approach with the comet, loads of the characters got a meaningful job... If this is the standard for SNW, long may it continue.
How is that catering to the video game crowd? They've done shield percentages in Star Trek since the 80s.
Well I think that's his point: he'd like to return to a more TOS treatment of shields.
I'm just happy they held throughout.
Yeah... but there are narrative advantages to higher crew complements.
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Loved it.
Probably because in TOS her phasers shifted from blue to red and back and the beams were never 100% consistent across the episodes.
I like the look of this version of the original E. The only change I'd want are straight nacelle pylons instead of the refit triangular ones.
Pikes quarters are also way too big, even allowing for a doubling of the crew size in the next few years. Pike's quarters just seem way too large for this size of ship and, really, for the lifestyle supposedly Starfleet officers are supposed to be living in. Even Picard's quarters were kind of modest. But Like has huge quarters with a fireplace and a functioning kitchen?
How big is this Enterprise supposed to be? Did TPTB stick with "continuity" and then ship is the same size as the accepted numbers for TOS or did they Abrams it and make huge on the scale of the E-D or -E?
Getting ready to sit and watch through the whole episode.
(On a nitpicking note, in combat scenes it kinda bugs be they call the defensive shields "deflector shields" those are two different things.)
The onscreen graphics say 289 meters long. CBS says 442 meters. I go with the former but then nobody is depending on me to be the official decision maker so to each their own.
This is really, really good point. Always a sign of invested writers, I feel. It can be challenging as different writers sweep through, but I always felt it was one of Firefly's huge strengths and you make a fantastic point that outside of TOS and DS9, a lot of the dialogue in shows could be quite interchangeable.
That's because you're never at any of the meetings.
Their catering is terrible. Pork rinds and tap water are not "snacks."
Well when you put it like that. They should definitely get those little gas station meat sticks too.
I liked the episode last week, but this one is way better! 8.
Surprisingly, it gave me a lot of TNG vibes. I also love what they are doing with the characters, both Pike and, in this episode, Uhura (but I expect they will all have dedicated episodes in the course of the season).
I still don’t like much Chapel…She just seems a totally different character to me. Uhura, on the other hand, gets more development here than she ever did and it’s for the better.
I like the concept and the Shepherds, I could have done without the musical part, both because it was very minor but especially as it’s nonsensical, as it’s based on modern western music and not “universal” at all (those aliens invented the tempered system on their own? Really?). Also, I like this interpretation of the prime directive, but I’m not necessarily sure that what happened “brought life”: a climate change like that is bound to have serious repercussions on the planetary ecosystem, leading to extinction events and disruption.
Also I’m not sure how I feel about Pike deceiving the Shepherds that way, even if it turned out the comet knew about it in advance.
Surprisingly, it gave me a lot of TNG vibes. I also love what they are doing with the characters, both Pike and, in this episode, Uhura (but I expect they will all have dedicated episodes in the course of the season).
I still don’t like much Chapel…She just seems a totally different character to me. Uhura, on the other hand, gets more development here than she ever did and it’s for the better.
I like the concept and the Shepherds, I could have done without the musical part, both because it was very minor but especially as it’s nonsensical, as it’s based on modern western music and not “universal” at all (those aliens invented the tempered system on their own? Really?). Also, I like this interpretation of the prime directive, but I’m not necessarily sure that what happened “brought life”: a climate change like that is bound to have serious repercussions on the planetary ecosystem, leading to extinction events and disruption.
Also I’m not sure how I feel about Pike deceiving the Shepherds that way, even if it turned out the comet knew about it in advance.
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