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Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

Rate the Episode

  • 1 - Excellent

    Votes: 147 45.9%
  • 2

    Votes: 81 25.3%
  • 3

    Votes: 60 18.8%
  • 4

    Votes: 12 3.8%
  • 5

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • 6

    Votes: 4 1.3%
  • 7

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • 8

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • 9

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 10 - Terrible

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    320
  • Poll closed .
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Jesus Christ, dude. I can't tell if this is serious or MODMAN 2.0 taking the piss. The staff had nothing to do with the poll, and there was no coordinated effort to confuse anyone or manipulate the super-important voting that gets tabulated by Paramount and determines whether the show gets a third season or not. It was just an accidental reversal of the scoring on the OP's part. Which, by the way, you can notice by reading the poll before voting, or if you missed that, by changing your vote after the fact. Certainly didn't justify all of this nonsense.

10 out of 1, would be moderated again.
 
Likely the cherry on top of the discontinuity sundae. It isn't that one can't make the leap, but it is just the biggest leap they're asking people to make yet (there really is no real world connection that can be made) after asking them to make a lot of other leaps for this all to be "Prime". Changing Robert April's race isn't a dealbreaker for me, in and of itself, it is just more the big straw that breaks the camel's back.

Some folks are willing to go farther than others.
I understand that. I'm kinda asking a psychological question as to why we (generally) see some of these things as worse when really they aren't. I see those changes as irreconcilable with established lore; so why is one of those irreconcilable changes a-ok, and another not? It's just interesting how our minds work sometimes
 
It's like a nod to both the California-class of the late 24th century and Ptolemy-class tugs of the 23rd century.

I disliked that Starfleet sent such an undercrewed ship on a mission that needed far more support.
 
Maybe she anticipated the possible need and worked on it on the way from Earth to Kiley 90210?
And knew Spock would be part of the away team and thus made a special version for him? Ehh...

Speaking of that...if Spock's physiology made it possible for the disguise to fail the way it ended up failing, wouldn't you just take someone else if you were Pike? Granted, it was good to have him there to serve up some neck pinches. :D
 
I didn't miss that. None of that explains how she would have known that Pike's plan was to beam down disguised as the natives at a genetic level or had time to create these injections specifically for those three officers. Pike didn't even explain his plan, he simply said "Let's go see the Doctor" and the rest played out as if M'Benga and Chapel had known this plan for a while.
Then I guess you missed Pike's shipwide speech starting at approx 16:16 where he outlines the mission for the WHOLE CREW. IDK - If I were Chapel and pilot testing a project, I might want to have something ready for when we get there as we'll probably be sending a Landing Party.
 
I understand that. I'm kinda asking a psychological question as to why we (generally) see some of these things as worse when really they aren't. I see those changes as irreconcilable with established lore; so why is one of those irreconcilable changes a-ok, and another not? It's just interesting how our minds work sometimes

I think it is simply because we can't reconcile changing races with the real world in any fashion. Many of the other things, while unlikely in the real world, can be accomplished. We can tear down an aircraft carrier and change its specs and still see it as the same thing.
 
And knew Spock would be part of the away team and thus made a special version for him? Ehh...

M'Benga likely told her that Pike likes to take Spock on landing party duty. It still leaves the question of how they got the Kiley DNA though...
 
Colt is credited in that Discovery episode

It's 'The Cage' where Colt isn't credited.

Sorry, I thought the Cage credits were what were being referred to. At any rate, of the two only the Spiky girl is ID'd as Colt.
 
I didn't miss that. None of that explains how she would have known that Pike's plan was to beam down disguised as the natives at a genetic level or had time to create these injections specifically for those three officers. Pike didn't even explain his plan, he simply said "Let's go see the Doctor" and the rest played out as if M'Benga and Chapel had known this plan for a while.
Again that's just editing. Imagine I have a character say "Let's go to Paris!" and it immediately cuts to them being in Paris with one character making a disparaging remark about how dirty it is. That doesn't mean they teleported there. The dialogue makes it misleading but it's just tricks of the trade. Being too literal about it just breaks the fun.

How do people keep attaching my name to quotes that aren't from me lol

Sorry about that. I was handling too many replies. I've corrected it.

No, it only had one nacelle.
Offhand I'd say the Archer is a single-deck saucer.
 
Then I guess you missed Pike's shipwide speech starting at approx 16:16 where he outlines the mission for the WHOLE CREW. IDK - If I were Chapel and pilot testing a project, I might want to have something ready for when we get there as we'll probably be sending a Landing Party.

So she created an injection for the entire crew, or just guessed that Spock would be on the away team? I also still don't see how she knew enough about these aliens in order to create the injections in the first place. How could they have that much info on their DNA by simply observing them from orbit?
 
I think it also has a shuttle bay on the front of the saucer, there is an big opening there.
Yeah that's what sold me on it being really small (that and the crew of three, of course).

So she created an injection for the entire crew, or just guessed that Spock would be on the away team?
Maybe she watched the show. Spock is pretty much always on the away team.
 
Okay, that's felt a little more in the ballpark, but it was a little close to the right-field foul pole.

Everything is still a little too shiny, flashy and over stylized and people talk and make facial expressions too much like quippy 21st century Millennials in a Joss Whedon production and.... Temporary genetic alterations instead of simple prosthetics like it has always been?

But, it was good and felt more like the kind of Trek I enjoy. So, we'll see.

Now. That Picard finale.... I don't think I'm ready for that one yet.
 
So she created an injection for the entire crew, or just guessed that Spock would be on the away team? I also still don't see how she knew enough about these aliens in order to create the injections in the first place. How could they have that much info on their DNA by simply observing them from orbit?

Real world? You're never going to come up with an explanation you are happy with. Star Trek world? Spock is a regular landing party member, Chapel could've gotten that information from M'Benga or the ship's records. As far as the DNA goes? Maybe Una was able to transmit some data on the Kiley that the Archer automatically sent it to Starfleet.

It definitely is Star Trek, because there are plot holes you can fly a starship through. :lol:
 
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