Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

[Ray Hardgrit]

I'm happy and a little surprised to see so many people enjoying this episode so much!

Personally I'm leaning more towards the 'Here are my 50 reasons why Strange New Worlds is the WORST TREK EVER' side (leaning a little bit more), but I'll spare you my negativity and talk about some of the things I liked.

I liked how La'an seems to be doing okay after the transporter accident that created her from Malcolm Reed and Tasha Yar (no seriously, I liked the character). I liked all the characters in fact and the sets look as pretty in motion as they do in photos. I liked that the episode had its heart in the right place and seems to be taking most of the continuity seriously. The foundations are here for a decent series I reckon.

 

[Belz...]

Sure you can. It doesn't make much sense for the Enterprise to have slanted pylons then straight pylons then slanted pylons again, but it is technologically feasible.

I'm not talking just about the pylons. I said "the entire proportions of a ship". You'd have to take the ship entirely apart three time -- that we know of -- in her history. That's only technically feasible under the most extreme interpretation. The truth of the matter is that a LOT of the things that change during the franchise have no real in-world explanation and in some cases are downright impossible, but for some reason, an asian rather than a caucasian is where we draw the line.

 

[Tuskin38]

I’m not voting in the poll (in what parallel universe does 1/10 mean “excellent” and 10/10 “terrible”?)

The thread creator made a error, they admitted this.

I also LOVED that we got to see a Disco styled version of a Hermes Class Scout (from the Franz Joseph Star Trek Tech manual):

Who says it is? With a crew of only 3 it could be a smaller ship.

Sam Kirk.

George is his first name, Sam is his middle name.

Maybe I missed it, but I can't recall them going into any detail of how Number One and her crew were lured down to the planet and arrested.

They were investigating the the warp signature. They thought it was a warp engine, but their sensors weren't advanced enough to tell it wasn't.

It was likely a mistake, as the only thing referencing to her as Colt is the credits.

Nah it was confirmed to be intentional.

I actually like the idea of him being the father of TOS M'Benga.

Well he's not.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Really loved it, ship looks amazing, crew seem fun, Chapel has somehow managed to out do Detmer as my dream woman, the Earth bit at the end really hit me too. Even most of my gripes are the old fashioned not important types.
I do wish Spock wasnt again tied to a secret character. 2 siblings and now a Noonien Singh and a Kirk and Ive always hated small universe stuff.
Anyone else think the Kylies were an homage to the Buffy vampires ?
Also Pikes house seemed like a call back to Kirks house in Forever Christmas land

 

[Belz...]

Also Pikes house seemed like a call back to Kirks house in Forever Christmas land

No, no. Forever Christmas Land was Picard's fever dream. Kirk's was Forever Breakfast Land, which is what we got here.

 

[BillJ]

The truth of the matter is that a LOT of the things that change during the franchise have no real in-world explanation and in some cases are downright impossible, but for some reason, an asian rather than a caucasian is where we draw the line.

Likely the cherry on top of the discontinuity sundae. It isn't that one can't make the leap, but it is just the biggest leap they're asking people to make yet (there really is no real world connection that can be made) after asking them to make a lot of other leaps for this all to be "Prime". Changing Robert April's race isn't a dealbreaker for me, in and of itself, it is just more the big straw that breaks the camel's back.

Some folks are willing to go farther than others.

 

[BillJ]

Nah it was confirmed to be intentional.

Then they are simply stupid. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

+ George Kirk was a wonderful reveal. I caught Lt. Cmdr Kirk early in the episode, and knowing he'll be in Season 2 I thought this was an instance of flouting canon for a divergence. Not only was it George, but wasn't that Paul Wesley in a mustache? If so that's wonderful parallel to Shatner-George, and a wonderful way to bamboozle us with his S2 reveal to make us think Lt. Commander Kirk was James. It didn't occur to me it would be George until just before he walked on the bridge.

As others have mentioned, Sam, not George. Yes, he’s George Kirk, Jr., but he goes by Sam, and in both this episode and TOS he’s referred to as Sam.

And no, that’s not Paul Wesley with a mustache. ‪‪I made a joke earlier about being unable to process that not being the case. Sam Kirk is played by Dan Jeannotte, and that is defintiely the better decision, just like casting Rebecca Romijn as Number One/Una, and Jess Bush as Christine Chapel, rather than trying to be overly cute in lining up with casting limitations of the past instead of treating each character as truly unique characters worth giving backstory to.

 

[daedalus5]

A solid 1. (I also don’t like the new scoring metric, and so it’s really a good 10/10 from me).

Felt like proper Star Trek. Great intro sequence, original theme music, moody Pike, shame there wasn’t a TMP length beauty shot of the Enterprise, great to see a auburn, M’Benga and Chaoel so far. Thank god Jim Kirk didn’t have a moustache and it’s actually Sam Kirk. Anton Mount doing his He’ll on Wheels moody horseback riding was cool.

On top of this, it was the finale of Picard. Best Trek night of my life. Thank you Producers and writers if you’re reading this. Well, bloody, done! Treks back big time.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I nearly did a double-take. Was that the Cerritos the aliens were seeing?

Major wins for the art department for this episode. It looked like a hundred million dollar production!

 

[Tiberius Jim]

^^^
I guess you missed the dialogue where M'Benaga she's a civilian on loan and part of a project (IE - the method they just used in this episode to 'blend in' with the natives') basically pilot-testing this new 'Altering Genome' approach to see how well it works. She's not a member of Star Fleet proper at this point and time.

I didn't miss that. None of that explains how she would have known that Pike's plan was to beam down disguised as the natives at a genetic level or had time to create these injections specifically for those three officers. Pike didn't even explain his plan, he simply said "Let's go see the Doctor" and the rest played out as if M'Benga and Chapel had known this plan for a while.

 

[Tuskin38]

I also don’t like the new scoring metric,

It's not new, they just made a labelling error.

No, no. Forever Christmas Land was Picard's fever dream. Kirk's was Forever Breakfast Land, which is what we got here.

How do people keep attaching my name to quotes that aren't from me lol

Was that the Cerritos the aliens were seeing?

No, it only had one nacelle.

 

[BillJ]

Major wins for the art department for this episode. It looked like a hundred million dollar production!

Probably because over the course of a season they've spent a hundred million dollars on it.

 

[cooleddie74]

I nearly did a double-take. Was that the Cerritos the aliens were seeing?

Major wins for the art department for this episode. It looked like a hundred million dollar production!

No, it was a one-nacelle survey or science ship named the U.S.S. Archer.

 

[BillJ]

I didn't miss that. None of that explains how she would have known that Pike's plan was to beam down disguised as the natives at a genetic level or had time to create these injections specifically for those three officers. Pike didn't even explain his plan, he simply said "Let's go see the Doctor" and the rest played out as if M'Benga and Chapel had known this plan for a while.

It is true to Star Trek in one regard at least, it takes place in very compressed time frames. Spock making it from Vulcan to Earth in a couple of hours, Chapel being able to whip up a genome resequencer in a few minutes...

 

[valden]

I'm happy and a little surprised to see so many people enjoying this episode so much!

Personally I'm leaning more towards the 'Here are my 50 reasons why Strange New Worlds is the WORST TREK EVER' side (leaning a little bit more), but I'll spare you my negativity and talk about some of the things I liked.

I liked how La'an seems to be doing okay after the transporter accident that created her from Malcolm Reed and Tasha Yar (no seriously, I liked the character). I liked all the characters in fact and the sets look as pretty in motion as they do in photos. I liked that the episode had its heart in the right place and seems to be taking most of the continuity seriously. The foundations are here for a decent series I reckon.

if I am been honest I thought discovery was a bit stronger for a first episode. This episode was average. I think people are more into the cast than the plain plot of the episode

 

[BillJ]

No, it was a one-nacelle survey or science ship named the U.S.S. Archer.

I did immediately notice the nacelle pylon is very reminiscent of the California-class.

 

[Tiberius Jim]

It is true to Star Trek in one regard at least, it takes place in very compressed time frames. Spock making it from Vulcan to Earth in a couple of hours, Chapel being able to whip up a genome resequencer in a few minutes...

Sure, the time frame is a little easier to explain away, but the way it's presented I don't even see how she knew that was even the plan to begin with.

 

[cooleddie74]

It's like a nod to both the California-class of the late 24th century and Ptolemy-class tugs of the 23rd century.

 

[BillJ]

Sure, the time frame is a little easier to explain away, but the way it's presented I don't even see how she knew that was even the plan to begin with.

Maybe she anticipated the possible need and worked on it on the way from Earth to Kiley 90210?