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Spoilers Stargirl - Season One Discussion Thread

Yolanda's Brother seemed to be upset that her parents didn't forgive her. He stormed off after she was sent to her room.
 
I know that Courtney is supposed to be young and inexperienced, but that scene in the janitorial closet where she tries to turn off the power felt wrong.

It shouldn't have to be pointed out to her by the cosmic staff and Yolanda that doing so would be endangering the lives of patients on the floor.

I can almost picture her rushing to confront the Injustice Society once she feels she's reestablished the Justice Society.

I hope that this recklessness is brought up by Pat, Yolanda and others, because this tendency to act without thinking could lead to someone being injured or worse.

Also, hospitals with open windows. Really?! There's a lawsuit waiting to happen. The writer's couldn't simply have them meet on the roof or a balcony.

And how did Beth recognize Yolanda as Wildcat? Did I miss something?
 
Talk about a very strict family. Luckily she didn’t come out as gay or they might have killed her. :)
It was a okay episode but it needs more Pat. Don’t know what was up with the violin. I get the impression she was trying to summon someone.

I also don’t think the boyfriend shared the photo. I’m getting the impression that scene with him laughing with his friends was a red herring and that strange girl with the white highlights cloned his phone and asked for the pictures.

Hmm, you might be onto something. I did initially suspect that the texts from "Henry" asking for the photos were actually from Cindy, but if that were the case, why show Cindy taking his phone later? They wouldn't have put it in the sequence if it didn't serve a purpose. I suppose it's possible that it was misdirection, to leave it unclear to us whether Henry or Cindy was to blame.
The way I interpreted all of that was that Henry was the one who asked for the photos, Cindy sent them to herself when she took his phone, and then she shared them with everyone else. In a couple of the scenes Henry seemed to feel bad about what was happening to Yolanda, so I don't think he planned things to go the way they did.
He was definitely still an asshole though, since he set the whole thing off by showing the pictures to his buddies.
Yolanda's Brother seemed to be upset that her parents didn't forgive her. He stormed off after she was sent to her room.
Yeah, that felt like a possible set up for something there.
I enjoyed this one, it was nice to start to learn a bit more about the future new JSA members, and to find out exactly why Yolanda has been treated so badly and is so pissed.
The Wildcat suit was cool, and the stuff with her and Courtney was pretty good.
Yolanda's parents and grandmother refusing to forgive her was pretty crappy on their part. Yeah, what she did was stupid, but I think at this point she's been through enough with them and her classmates, and could probably use her family's support.
I'm curious what happened with The Wizard's wife, it definitely looks like Icicle or one of the other surviving ISA members did something to her.
 
The way I interpreted all of that was that Henry was the one who asked for the photos, Cindy sent them to herself when she took his phone, and then she shared them with everyone else. In a couple of the scenes Henry seemed to feel bad about what was happening to Yolanda, so I don't think he planned things to go the way they did.
He was definitely still an asshole though, since he set the whole thing off by showing the pictures to his buddies.

That's my take too, but thribs might be onto something with the suggestion that it's misdirection, that it was actually Cindy who sent the texts asking for the photos (which was my initial expectation before the scene in the hallway). I suspect we'll learn the whole truth eventually.


Yolanda's parents and grandmother refusing to forgive her was pretty crappy on their part. Yeah, what she did was stupid, but I think at this point she's been through enough with them and her classmates, and could probably use her family's support.

I don't think there's anything stupid about sharing sexy photos with one's romantic partner. At worst, she left herself vulnerable to someone else's abuses, so the fault lies with them, either Cindy, Henry, or both. And with her parents for being prudish, judgmental idiots who think it's okay to punish their daughter for the sin of having a body. Yolanda's the only one in this scenario (other than her brother, maybe) who hasn't done anything wrong.
 
It's just boobs.

More importantly, it's child pornography for anyone including Yolanda, to transmit those images.

Her boyfriend, despite being innocent, could of gone to jail, if Yolanda had forced the issue.

Wildcat... Is that suit magical or tech? I'm 90 percent that it's tech or alien tech, but that means that suit is maintained by an intuitive AI, who could be very helpful.

Can the suit, if it's an advanced computer, or an alien computer, hack files, and maybe scrub her boobs from the internet.
 
That's my take too, but thribs might be onto something with the suggestion that it's misdirection, that it was actually Cindy who sent the texts asking for the photos (which was my initial expectation before the scene in the hallway). I suspect we'll learn the whole truth eventually.




I don't think there's anything stupid about sharing sexy photos with one's romantic partner. At worst, she left herself vulnerable to someone else's abuses, so the fault lies with them, either Cindy, Henry, or both. And with her parents for being prudish, judgmental idiots who think it's okay to punish their daughter for the sin of having a body. Yolanda's the only one in this scenario (other than her brother, maybe) who hasn't done anything wrong.
It's stupid, because this kind of stuff inevitably ends up getting shared with people you don't want to see it. Even if you or the person you send it to don't share them yourself, that doesn't mean somebody else couldn't get ahold of them and share them with everyone. Hell, I think it's stupid to have something like that on your phone, even if you don't share it anyone, because there's still a chance of the same thing happening.
 
It's stupid, because this kind of stuff inevitably ends up getting shared with people you don't want to see it. Even if you or the person you send it to don't share them yourself, that doesn't mean somebody else couldn't get ahold of them and share them with everyone. Hell, I think it's stupid to have something like that on your phone, even if you don't share it anyone, because there's still a chance of the same thing happening.

I'm sorry, but that sounds analogous to saying "it's stupid to have a credit card because people clone or steal credit cards all the time." The risk of a thing being abused does not invalidate the thing itself. It just sounds like more slut-shaming to me.
 
Is anyone comparing Yolanda's situation with Kat on Euphoria?

Of course Kat had agency, and she is making a lot of money out of financial domination, but half way through season two, which has not aired yet, her "friends" at high school are going to catch on, and abuse her like Yolanda was.
 
It's pretty easy to sufficiently secure one's phone.* The problem is, most people don't bother to do it. Even still, 'Hollywood' takes a lot of liberties with the whole cloning. While it isn't exactly difficult, it does require specific equipment - which would normally not be something typical high schoolers have access to.

*I am of course speaking specifically about securing one's phone from other individuals. Being 'secure' from corporations is a different matter altogether and a serious discussion onto itself.

And I do think the episode was trying to address revenge porn, which is becoming a troubling systemic issue amongst teens.
 
Even still, 'Hollywood' takes a lot of liberties with the whole cloning.

I don't see the need for cloning. If JD and I are right, then Cindy only found out about the pictures during the brief moment she was holding Henry's phone, so I figured she just e-mailed the photos to her own phone. On the other hand, if thribs is right that the initial request for pics from Henry was actually from Cindy all along, then I guess she must've already cloned his phone beforehand.
 
The way she was messing around with Henry's phone after she grabbed it, it looked to me like she was sending them to herself.
I'm sorry, but that sounds analogous to saying "it's stupid to have a credit card because people clone or steal credit cards all the time." The risk of a thing being abused does not invalidate the thing itself. It just sounds like more slut-shaming to me.
It's not just about the naked pictures for me, I just think it's a bad idea in general to have anything on a phone you take out in public that you won't want other people to see, or get a hold of.
I used to take my tablet to work with me to read on my breaks, and I made sure that I never watched any movies or read any comics with images that could offend people, and never went to sites that I wouldn't want people to have access to. I wouldn't want to have anything that someone could use against me on my phone or tablet.
As a general rule people are fucking pieces of shit, so I think it's a good idea not to give them easy access to something they could to hurt you.
EDIT: OK that last bit's a kind harsh, but I still think it's better to be cautious with anything that could potentially be used against you.
 
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It's not just about the naked pictures for me, I just think it's a bad idea in general to have anything on a phone you take out in public that you won't want other people to see, or get a hold of.

Henry was the one who took his phone out in public and let someone get hold of it. Yet you said "What she did was stupid." It's not about the naked pictures for me either -- it's about the unfairness of pinning all the blame on Yolanda when she's actually the victim.
 
Google says it takes 5 to ten minutes to clone a phone, but the new iPhones are as large as 256 gb, so I doubt that that is true any longer.

Picture sharing apps are common.

There are automatic settings on blue tooth, that share your pictures in a share folder, with all your approved friends.

Only an idiot sets their share folder to public.
 
Henry was the one who took his phone out in public and let someone get hold of it. Yet you said "What she did was stupid." It's not about the naked pictures for me either -- it's about the unfairness of pinning all the blame on Yolanda when she's actually the victim.
I definitely agree that she's a victim, but if she hadn't sent him the picture then he wouldn't have had it to share. I'm not saying there was anything wrong with the pictures themselves, the mistake was putting them out in a way that they could have been shared. It was putting herself in a vulnerable position where something that hurt her could get out, that was the mistake.
 
These children are going to upload their "fight" with the ISA to Instagram.

Which will attract attention.

Irl..

Multiplatform media guerilla marketing?

The CW is going to live stream found footage on Instagram.
 
I definitely agree that she's a victim, but if she hadn't sent him the picture then he wouldn't have had it to share.

Which is exactly as sexist and wrong as saying "If she hadn't dressed revealingly she wouldn't have been raped." All you're doing is doubling down on the slut-shaming and victim-blaming.
 
I know that Courtney is supposed to be young and inexperienced, but that scene in the janitorial closet where she tries to turn off the power felt wrong.

It shouldn't have to be pointed out to her by the cosmic staff and Yolanda that doing so would be endangering the lives of patients on the floor.

I can almost picture her rushing to confront the Injustice Society once she feels she's reestablished the Justice Society.

I hope that this recklessness is brought up by Pat, Yolanda and others, because this tendency to act without thinking could lead to someone being injured or worse.

Also, hospitals with open windows. Really?! There's a lawsuit waiting to happen. The writer's couldn't simply have them meet on the roof or a balcony.

And how did Beth recognize Yolanda as Wildcat? Did I miss something?

The way this show surprised me is the amount of very serious stuff happening - the JSA getting killed in the beginning, Icicle killing a kid to goad his father (and then killing the father) and now apparently the mom has been killed too. That's quite dark for a TV Superhero show and her youthful recklessness may lead to a very painful experience that even though she has a sentient and powerful staff she is too young to grasp the whole scope and will make a misstep alongside that will hurt others.

In a way it seems quite realistic - who of us at 15 would have been mature enough to actually step back and think about going against people twice or more my age with ruthless streaks who are actually in control of their powers and know to wield and use them properly?

At that age few of us listened to their parents warning of danger - real life story from me would be neighbors who had a kid in his late teenagers who crashed his motorcycle while racing or doing some stunts on his bike one night in the city. He was lucky to survive the crash (didn't wear a helmet of course) and multiple surgeries later he still has big scars and several impediments that will follow him for the rest of his life just because he was irresponsible on his bike trying to be cool vs being safe.
 
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