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Starfleet Academy Official Trailer

And certain people come in here predisposed to dislike any new Star Trek and are mainly here for the attention.
And they always say the Same. Damn. Thing. with every single post they make. Once you've read one of their posts, there's really no point in reading any others because they're all the same. They might use different words, but what they're saying is exactly what they posted last time and the time before that and the time before that and the time before that.
I gave an honest opinion on the trailer. Are you saying I can't post if my opinon isn’t to like what I saw? Im sorry but I didnt like it.
 
I gave an honest opinion on the trailer. Are you saying I can't post if my opinon isn’t to like what I saw? Im sorry but I didnt like it.
So...not going to watch since Picardo looks like he's collapsing, and wardrobe is so poor?

Not worthwhile by that description, I'd say.


For my part, the odd background connection between one cadet and the villain is a downer to me. But, the rest is bright and fun and a Academy I would attend.
 
He did write good science fiction in general and a lot of other genres too.

He wouldn't have thanked you for calling him a science fiction writer. He considered himself a speculative fiction writer, which he saw as a more literary and less simplistic concept. We're talking in a discussion about a Starfleet Academy TV series. Ellison is not terribly relevant here.

Star Trek needs to tell good enough stories to draw an audience.

TNG drew an audience despite being pretty friggin' horrible for much of its first year or two. I honestly don't see any Trek since 2009 as being anywhere near as bad as some of that.

But television writing overall has been in decline recently. I only have to look at shows produced even five years ago, and they were better in general.

And I've had to go back to watching independent films to find anything new. A decade plus of MCU has really hurt cinema. I can't even find any good comedies anymore.

You're talking to someone whose favourite comedy movies tend to come from the 1930s and 1940s. It's pretty hard to beat something like The Lady Eve.
 
Show would have been better if it wasn't in Discovery's shadow. Should have set it in the 25th century.

Alex Kurtzman wanted a show that specifically addressed the times that today's youth are living in.

It's not a happy happy, joy joy world out there. Today's youth are living in a world of social unrest, creeping totalitarianism, and a poor economy. They wouldn't have been able to relate to a 25th century setting.
 
It's not a happy happy, joy joy world out there. Today's youth are living in a world of social unrest, creeping totalitarianism, and a poor economy. They wouldn't have been able to relate to a 25th century setting.
It could be done. But then the cries of "Dystopia!" as well as calls for every 24th century cameo imaginable, reasonable or not.
 
Show would have been better if it wasn't in Discovery's shadow. Should have set it in the 25th century.
Agreed. They went so far ahead there's now 700 years of exploration behind them now. So much that exploration is old hat and no one is going to be the next Kirk or Picard. There's probably thousands of captains and adventures that no one is interested anymore. 25th is still relatively at the beginning. Also the 32nd century the tech is so advanced that things are too easy. They made a real mistake going so far ahead.
 
Alex Kurtzman wanted a show that specifically addressed the times that today's youth are living in.

It's not a happy happy, joy joy world out there. Today's youth are living in a world of social unrest, creeping totalitarianism, and a poor economy. They wouldn't have been able to relate to a 25th century setting.
But that goes against what Star Trek is.
I get the idea but there are plenty of other sci fi shows that do that.
 
Look how much grief Picard S1 got for going dark ("This is not Star Trek!")
The irony is that Star Wars ended up making the show Patrick Stewart seemingly wanted to make with Andor, having a sci-fi show comment on the real world injustices of the current day.
 
Discovery had the same complaints. Problem is "being dark" for some of these shows was really just adding cuss words, a little more violence and turning the lights down. What they were lacking was characters with real complexity and moral grey areas. Hallmarks of most prestige tv shows. They think snark and trauma equals adult entertainment into itself. They love shows like "Buffy" but seem to only love just it's surface qualities. Instead of the more deeper themes within in it.
 
Oh my, is Pubert having another fake snit about clothes in the future?

My call name is Tron. If you cant use my name do not address me on the boards.
Discovery had the same complaints. Problem is "being dark" for some of these shows was really just adding cuss words, a little more violence and turning the lights down. What they were lacking was characters with real complexity and moral grey areas. Hallmarks of most prestige tv shows. They think snark and trauma equals adult entertainment into itself. They love shows like "Buffy" but seem to only love just it's surface qualities. Instead of the more deeper themes within in it.
Quite right Jayson.
 
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What actual difference would it make?

Different characters from other TV shows making guest appearances. Not much else. The ships and the tech in any Star Trek series do whatever the writers want them to do in a given episode.

The thing is, whatever century TPTB decided to set a Starfleet Academy series in, the usual suspects would be complaining that it was too CW or too woke or just a bad idea that should never have made it to series. Because that's basically what's happened every time the idea's come up over the last few decades.
 
What actual difference would it make?

This. Star trek is a universe where very little changes from time period to time period. So whatever story they're telling would be fine for any era. This was the era they chose so they could reuse DSC production assets (and, as it turns out, PIC and STO assets.)
 
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