Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread
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They probably meant we would still see her.
Flying V violin. Now I've seen everything.
I love her violin music. She's covered pretty much every Trek series theme and her videos are always a fun ride.
Comment I saw on TrekCore, if it's accurate, we will be seeing less Tig next season
That more of less feels like the same reason we didn't see her much on Discovery as well. It does suck because she is one of the best things about the show. Maybe we will see Dax brought back and with a expanded role.
Alright, now that Season 1 has been completed, time for some "meta" thoughts:
- The biggest niggle across the entire arc is how the show treated recurring characters. We are introduced to a "bridge crew" very deliberately in Episode 1 we never see again. Recurring minor characters like the Cadet Pickford or Dzolo or Ocam just kind of vanish. Indeed, the number of kids in the classrooms just kept dropping, making the academy seem progressively smaller over time.
- Related to the above, it feels like they sort of got bored of having a show about students after awhile. In the back half of the season, we only see the kids in a class once (the whole drama experience with Tilly in Episode 8). I cannot believe, TBH, we got through an entire season of a college-based show without an episode at least touching on the stress of final exams. It just felt like it was slowly drifting thematically away from a school based show to a Trek show that happens to have a young cast.
- Caleb got a great arc this season, but with how it's all been tied up in a bow, I expect him to recede into the background somewhat next year, unless they try and come up with new relationship drama with Tarima.
- SAM ended up the breakout character. Kerrice Brooks is just awesome, and I can't wait to see where they take her next season.
- The writers really seem to be struggling to come up with content to do with Jay-Den now that his introduction arc is finished. He needs something further to challenge him to grow.
- I don't really like Tarima much, largely because I don't think Zoe Steiner is the same caliber of actor as the remainder of the young cast. She's fine in some of the more typical teen drama scenes, but any time it's the less relatable stuff regarding her superhero-like status, I just feel like she fails to carry the full weight of the scenes.
- Genesis is awesome, and I'm sad she only got like half an episode of character development. Darem was really underserved here as well. It felt like both of them got strong introductions, and then the writers kind of moved on.
In the latter half of the season, we get the field trip to the Miyazaki (still a class), and the theatre class with Tilly - and of the remaining three episodes, one is Spring Break, and the set-up for the finale is a field trip to Betazed for the inaugration of the new UFP HQ, before Caleb goes all Feris Bueller
Maybe I'm not remembering the setup for the ninth episode perfectly, but I seem to recall that the whole "300th night" thing was the end of the academic year? So we skip all of the year-end stress, and go straight to party central.
Again, it's a choice, of course. But really only the theatre class with Tilly required them to be students. These aren't student plots, they're generic Trek plots, which happen to involve wet-behind-the-ears young folks. I don't mind a mixture of "Trek episodes" and "Academy episodes" but I think the balance was tilted too far away from them actually being cadets in the back half. It mostly stopped feeling like a school, other than the fact the kids happen to live there.
Maybe they're just concerned if they lean to heavily into "nerd shit" like anxiety over grades and such they're going to be less relatable to a lot of the audience, but I'd really like to see some Real Genius type shit in here.
This is what Ake says, so yes, its end of term, but as a treat ... FIELD TRIP ... as we don't see the students leave for summer until a week later.
The class about them going onto the Miyazaki required them to be students too.
Processing trauma through the medium of theatre could be the set-up for any workplace drama, it wouldn't require them to specifically be students.
But a pot that requires them to be students and an episode showing them in class, your original statement, are different kettles of fish entirely.
Hopefully someday someone will ask members of the production team about that.
Because it's super blatant that something was going on behind the scenes.
The early episodes must have been heavily rewritten and re-filmed later in the season's development. Thok is the obvious aspect; she's a fun, vivid character who outshines everyone else on screen, and she completely vanishes around the midpoint of the season.
The first three episodes feel almost like a different show, much more comedic and so much fresher than the usual boilerplate shit that the show devolved into by the end of the season. Something really bizarre's gone on behind the scenes; episode eight and episode one feel so different that I genuinely wonder if Paramount pushed for big changes to the early episodes.
The first three episodes feel almost like a different show, much more comedic and so much fresher than the usual boilerplate shit that the show devolved into by the end of the season. Something really bizarre's gone on behind the scenes; episode eight and episode one feel so different that I genuinely wonder if Paramount pushed for big changes to the early episodes.
I wonder if Caleb will pick a division in his second year or if he will still be undeclared. He seems more suited to engineering than command.
It honestly feels like we've got a legitimate crew shaping up here. Genesis in command, Caleb as the engineer, Jay-den as CMO, SAM as the science officer and Darem as the helm officer.
I dunno, it seems like the season had three modes:
- Kids These Days, Come Let's Away, 300th Night, and Rubincon were basically generic Trek action-adventure. They're true ensemble outings, where all the kids play a role helping save the day. Coincidentally, this is where we see the majority of Caleb's arc, and the main arc of the season as a result.
- Beta Test, Vitus Reflux, and Ko'Zeine are all light YA drama which focus on the relationships between the main cast.
- Vox in Excelso, Series Acclimation Mil, and The Life of the Stars are all more adult theme/character based outings.
I'm not getting those vibes from season 1, versus the heavily cobbled-together season 2 for Disco. Season 1 feels more like a new show finding its voice, experimenting with a bunch of colors, and dealing with limited availability of certain actors.
I can definitely see Genesis, Caleb and Jay-Den having been set up for command, engineering and medical, but SAM as science officer and Darem as pilot almost feel like they were thrown in a absolute last minute notions. Reno’s comment that he’s going to be a hell of a pilot felt completely like a Hail Mary from the writers who plum forgot to show him in ANY role other than ‘not as good at command as Genesis’ in the last 9 episodes.
And then there’s Tarima. And Ocam, who I guess is going to be Yeoman Rand? Who even knows if Kyle or Dzolo have any sort of ship roles or interests or usefulness.
And, yikes. This was supposed to be an entire school year, which means there should be a whole new class of students next season, to be underserved and underdeveloped in the crush…
Thank goodness the "combadge swallower" went away.
I was half expecting to see a Mighty Ducks Flying V.Flying V violin. Now I've seen everything.
Almost the entirety of the secondary cast just straight up disappears after "Come Lets Away".
Honestly? Even though they sent him to engineering Caleb did more "Captaining" in these past two episode then Genesis.
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