Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[fireproof78]

Like if Discovery had arrived in some perfect future where the galaxy was all united and happy happy then that would be boring.

I have it on good authority, verified by top men, that utopia is not boring and they Star Trek should be utopian always.

 

[Campe]

Top. Men.

Boring. Top. Men.

 

[Fateor]

As the last act of the Temporal Wars before the peace treaty was signed and time travel outlawed, maybe some pissed-off faction triggered the collapse of warp drive as revenge and it's taken a century to claw back up to faster-than-light. Omega would probably destroy the entire galaxy or make it uninhabitable at the bare minimum.

Sorry but the whole "time travel outlawed" thing has to go.

The idea of outlawing Time Travel is an impossible paradox because you need Time Travel to police the use of Time Travel.

So it really would have been better if they just refused to send Discovery's crew back because there was no record of them returning from the future and thus doing so would be altering the timeline.

Like if Discovery had arrived in some perfect future where the galaxy was all united and happy happy then that would be boring.

Then don't have it be a perfect future with the galaxy united and happy.

We know from Enterprise that the 31st century was anything but after all.

 

[fireproof78]

Time travel needs to burn in hell.

 

[Farscape One]

As the last act of the Temporal Wars before the peace treaty was signed and time travel outlawed, maybe some pissed-off faction triggered the collapse of warp drive as revenge and it's taken a century to claw back up to faster-than-light. Omega would probably destroy the entire galaxy or make it uninhabitable at the bare minimum.

I can get behind that, despite my hatred of the Temporal Cold War from ENT. Makes better sense than Su'Kal.

Time travel needs to burn in hell.

On that, I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[Campe]

Time travel.
Mirror universe.
The Borg.

All things Star Trek can completely ignore and I’d be happier for.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Top. Men.

Boring. Top. Men.

No one wants a boring top

 

[Firebird]

Time travel needs to burn in hell.

 

[fireproof78]

Time travel.
Mirror universe.
The Borg.

All things Star Trek can completely ignore and I’d be happier for.

I'll give up the Mirror Universe for this to happen. Gladly.

 

[StarTrek1701]

> Hundreds of warp-capable species in the galaxy
> All crippled by The Burn.
> No one, not a single species at all, thought of any other means of propulsion beyond Warp

Excellent writing!

 

[Fateor]

Time travel needs to burn in hell.

Time Travel is an intrinsic part of the Star Trek universe.

I can get behind that, despite my hatred of the Temporal Cold War from ENT. Makes better sense than Su'Kal.

Eh, I'd say the TCW wasn't really too bad until it got to season 3 of ENT..

 

[Nerys Myk]

The idea of outlawing Time Travel is an impossible paradox because you need Time Travel to police the use of Time Travel.

My sweet summer child.

 

[Farscape One]

Time travel.
Mirror universe.
The Borg.

All things Star Trek can completely ignore and I’d be happier for.

Totally agreed about all three.

 

[fireproof78]

Time Travel is an intrinsic part of the Star Trek universe

Burn it down.

 

[Nerys Myk]

> Hundreds of warp-capable species in the galaxy
> All crippled by The Burn.
> No one, not a single species at all, thought of any other means of propulsion beyond Warp

Excellent writing!

Bad writing would be spending time on every failure.

 

[cooleddie74]

As Berman Era Trek routinely proved, even having Time Cops and the Temporal Prime Directive didn't mean great disasters and crimes didn't take place thanks to time travel. Captain Braxton basically created an alternate history by trying to prevent a different disaster.

 

[Farscape One]

Time Travel is an intrinsic part of the Star Trek universe.



Eh, I'd say the TCW wasn't really too bad until it got to season 3 of ENT..

I have to disagree about the TCW.

It was terrible from the start. Really the only thing that brings down the ENT pilot.

 

[Fateor]

> Hundreds of warp-capable species in the galaxy
> All crippled by The Burn.
> No one, not a single species at all, thought of any other means of propulsion beyond Warp

Excellent writing!

Which is funny because we know for a fact some of those species did.

My sweet summer child.

I'd point out here that even Discovery went back on the ban in the end.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'd point out here that even Discovery went back on the ban in the end.

And?

 

[cooleddie74]

PIC also brought back the dead Data.

Twice.

Doesn't make it a great idea.