Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Detached Nacelle]

Would be reasonable. Cadets need to learn the basics of STARFLEET tech first, and not have the easy way.

I dont recall Tilly's cadets having any specual features in their combadges only hers and Adira's did anything. Those cadets did have the wrist replicators for tools and phasers but makes sense you have them in the field no need in the classroom.

 

[Jayson1]

If you think that's bad, don't look at the replies to Robert Picardo on X. The Trek fanbase is so toxic it's frightening.

It not about fanbases. We are talking about human society in general. The internet has brought out the worst in people and they all have a place to express it.

 

[Fateor]

Guessing they're using real tablets so they can display things without doing a VFX replacement all the time.

Saves money.

A lot of money.

Discovery probably would have been a few hundred thousand cheaper an episode at least if they hadn't gone with all those stupid holograms.

 

[Jayson1]

I doubt it’s some sort of concerted effort. I agree that the pre-release backlash feels noticeably more vicious this time around, but I think it’s more or less the usual dynamic of loud negative voices drowning out the more reasonable people willing to wait before they form their opinion. And I suspect it’s actually an accumulation of several factors why Starfleet Academy specifically is facing such negative reactions:

• I think there’s a sort of “accumulated frustration” going on, where the backlash is intensified by the fact that Starfleet Academy is the latest in a line of Trek productions many people have felt alienated by. It’s not only “the new Star Trek show”, it’s “yet another one of those Star Trek shows.” Repeated negative experiences with recent Trek shows have eroded trust, causing many fans to respond to any new announcements with rejection and skepticism instead of open-mindedness and curiosity.
• More than ever before many people feel this show is not aimed at them. We had Trek shows aimed at kids before, but this is the first show that feels to many like it’s not only aimed at a young adult audience, but also one that’s predominantly female. Many see elements like the campus setting, emotional drama, romance and interpersonal conflict as inherently “female coded”. And even though in reality the nerd viewership is much more diverse, of course, nerd culture in online spaces is still very much dominated by young and middle-aged males. This results in a strong hostile response.
• Along those same lines, I think there’s a sort of “emotional ownership” going on with Star Trek, which might differentiate it from other IPs. Many fans don’t just “like” Star Trek, it’s a way of life. It shaped their worldview and moral compass, which leads to protective behavior and strong disappointment rather than simple dislike. This might explain why the language people use to criticize the show before it’s even out feels very personal, betrayed and vicious.
• Culture war nonsense: It’s just the way online discourse has become; discussion around modern media is always highly polarized, but with Star Trek it’s often very pronounced. IMHO, Trek has always been “socially progressive”, but today’s culture war lens treats any new show as a battlefield. Every casting choice, every character’s sexuality, every trailer — it’s all seen through that lens. This leads to reactive hostility based on imagined content and not what the show is actually about.
• And finally, most social media platforms amplify outrage by rewarding emotionally charged negativity, often making the harshest reactions far more visible. Rage and doomposting get engagement. It sucks, but that’s where we are right now.

I think one of the bigger issues is the show feels like it will be a lot like Discovery in tone and people didn't like that show so another Trek that feels like more of something they already knows didn't work for them is not going to create much hope. People also witnessed Trek's last attempt to be hip and cool with the young people in the Section 31 movie. That was a disaster. Trek doesn't have a good track record when it tries to be hip and cool.

 

[Michael]

I think one of the bigger issues is the show feels like it will be a lot like Discovery in tone and people didn't like that show so another Trek that feels like more of something they already knows didn't work for them is not going to create much hope. People also witnessed Trek's last attempt to be hip and cool with the young people in the Section 31 movie. That was a disaster. Trek doesn't have a good track record when it tries to be hip and cool.

You are basically describing what I’m also saying in my first point in that list.

 

[fireproof78]

I think one of the bigger issues is the show feels like it will be a lot like Discovery in tone and people didn't like that show so another Trek that feels like more of something they already knows didn't work for them is not going to create much hope. People also witnessed Trek's last attempt to be hip and cool with the young people in the Section 31 movie. That was a disaster. Trek doesn't have a good track record when it tries to be hip and cool.

Then it will fail

 

[cooleddie74]

The show will either be good enough or it won't. If we can't wait two more days to start finding out then my pity for our fandom is only going to get worse.

 

[TRON JA307020]

The show will either be good enough or it won't. If we can't wait two more days to start finding out then my pity for our fandom is only going to get worse.

I can wait. Im having fun nit picking the trailers. I Still have a lot more to complain about.

 

[Fateor]

The show will either be good enough or it won't. If we can't wait two more days to start finding out then my pity for our fandom is only going to get worse.

The biggest problem is probably going to be the "three episode chance" problem with streaming shows since reviews are saying the first episodes are kind of meh.

 

[Campe]

I can wait. Im having fun nit picking the trailers. I Still have a lot more to complain about.

Greeeeat.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Greeeeat.

The ironic thing is that people like this who advertise the fact that they're going to give it negative reviews in advance are only proving in advance that their reviews will be performative, pre-scripted, disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. So now the rest of us know in advance to treat every word they say as such.

 

[fireproof78]

The negativity bias effect is real. Being miserable is preferred to happiness.

 

[Campe]

Yeah, there’s a few people here who claim to be giving this a fair shot who most certainly are not. They have a very narrow vision as to what Star Trek can be. This might be awful, but it looks like it could be fun. I’m still leery of it but more than willing to give it a fair shake.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

I can wait. Im having fun nit picking the trailers. I Still have a lot more to complain about.

this is a sad way to live

 

[ELCHawk]

I am 50. Definitely not the target audience. But excited for it.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The first episode will be available on youtube.

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[Set Harth]

The guy has a tic tac toe game shaved into his head?

 

[Commander Troi]

The first episode will be available on youtube.

That's a good idea. Give people who are just curious a chance to check it out.

 

[fireproof78]

The first episode will be available on youtube.

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Glad they are continuing on this practice.

this is a sad way to live

At this point hatred is all that is known. It became comfortable, like old leather. It became easier, because not engaging felt like giving up, rather than recognizing the value of time, energy and attention being spent on positive choices in entertainment.

 

[Tuskin38]

Not surprising, they've done that with all the other series.

The guy has a tic tac toe game shaved into his head?

Looks cool