And Obi-Wan, in public areas, wanders around stormtrooper-infested Mos Eisley wearing a 'please shoot me' Jedi uniform.
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And Obi-Wan, in public areas, wanders around stormtrooper-infested Mos Eisley wearing a 'please shoot me' Jedi uniform.
I think that's just an artefact of a cosmetic retcon from the prequel movies. Though it seems natural that when they designed a general look for the Jedi, they naturally based it on Guinness's wardrobe. Thing is, at the time it seems that outfit was supposed to be just normal Tatooine garb. Hence Owen and several background Mos Eisley characters having the same basic look. Even Luke's outfit is essentially the same thing, just without the cloak.
I suspect at the time the thinking was that the Jedi wore something more akin to Vader's outfit (sans helmet & cybernetic accessories of course) which is indeed pretty much what they did for Anakin early on in TCW.
I suspect at the time the thinking was that the Jedi wore something more akin to Vader's outfit (sans helmet & cybernetic accessories of course) which is indeed pretty much what they did for Anakin early on in TCW.
I heard it as 'Jawa Juice'- it stood out to me because I was wondering why some obscure race on a back water planet would make a beverage which would be served on the hub planet of the Republic... - a bit too much of I tie in I thought...The unicycle droid in AOTC offered Kenobi a "cup of joe." So, maybe?
I'll have a Wootini, shaken not stirred.
Crawling or limp?
To be fair, it's probably worth remembering the not all Jedi dress in those robes. Barriss and Luminara both had their own thing going on, as did Ki Adi Mundi, Aayla Secura (though it was an inherited design from the comics) and of course Ahsoka Tano. Yoda's outfit is even simpler than Obi Wan's and most of the masters have a unique variation on the design.
I suppose one way to look at it is that the Jedi don't have an actual uniform, but those simple robes are a baseline, probably temple issue garments. Indeed they may be just generic, very cheap garments that have been mass produced all over the galaxy for millennia, which is why we see them as common and unremarkable in the outer-rim worlds.
The Jedi are supposed to be non-materialistic and it does suit the warrior/scholar monk idea that they'd be walking around in what is essentially pauper's clothes, at least in terms of style. The Star Wars universe equivalent of sack cloth and sandals. So on the upper levels of more cosmopolitan and prosperous worlds like Coruscant it sticks out more, but get down to the lower levels where suddenly everyone is wearing cloaks, robe and rags of all descriptions, a Jedi would more easily blend in.
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I heard it as 'Jawa Juice'- it stood out to me because I was wondering why some obscure race on a back water planet would make a beverage which would be served on the hub planet of the Republic... - a bit too much of I tie in I thought...The unicycle droid in AOTC offered Kenobi a "cup of joe." So, maybe?
I'll have a Wootini, shaken not stirred.
*Utinni.
This is of course what actually happened, but all that means is it was an incredibly stupid retcon. It basically retconned Obi-wan into literally the worst hider in the history of the world and Darth Vader into the biggest idiot for never finding him and Luke. I mean the dude didn't even bother to change his last name or the way he dressed and then went to live in proximity to Vader's family.
....and had no reason to go looking for anything there.
As I said it sort of works if you look at it with an eye to those robes being basically simple pauper's clothing that are a common side on most planets and Jedi are supposed to live a rather spartan/monastic lifestyle, it makes sense that the traditional robes reflect that.
Mostly though, yeah, it's because the image of Kenobi in ANH became iconic of what a Jedi should look like.
Actually, it just now occurred to me that if this is indeed a retcon, it didn't happen with the prequels but with RotJ. Even in the original pre-2004 version, Anakin's force ghost is seen wearing the same robes as Kenobi.
Actually according some of the concept art floating around I believe the Jedi outfit was supposed to look like what Luke was wearing in Return of the Jedi.
Aside from the colouring and the omission of the outer cloak (which he lost in the Rancor pit), Luke's RotJ outfit is essentially the same design as Obi Wan's. I'm looking that their scene together on Dagobah now and the differences are pretty minor.
The cloak itself is a different design as Luke's was held on by a neck clasp while Kenobi's has sleeves and was worn more like a hooded overcoat. Other things like Luke not wearing a belt over the sash (he has to awkwardly tuck his lightsaber under it for the swing off the barge!) and Kenobi's skirts being longer are about the only noticeable differences.
Indeed, the more I look at it, the more consistent it seems.
That said, as I already pointed out the prequels did show Jedi wearing decidedly non-robe like garments and even those that did have many subtle variations, so it was hardly a uniform thing.
Anyway, as for the medal ceremony outfit, aside from being black I don't seem much correlation between that and his RotJ costume, at least in terms of design.
The cloak itself is a different design as Luke's was held on by a neck clasp while Kenobi's has sleeves and was worn more like a hooded overcoat. Other things like Luke not wearing a belt over the sash (he has to awkwardly tuck his lightsaber under it for the swing off the barge!) and Kenobi's skirts being longer are about the only noticeable differences.
Indeed, the more I look at it, the more consistent it seems.
That said, as I already pointed out the prequels did show Jedi wearing decidedly non-robe like garments and even those that did have many subtle variations, so it was hardly a uniform thing.
Anyway, as for the medal ceremony outfit, aside from being black I don't seem much correlation between that and his RotJ costume, at least in terms of design.
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Actually according some of the concept art floating around I believe the Jedi outfit was supposed to look like what Luke was wearing in Return of the Jedi.[/QUOTE]
That's what I always assumed during all the years between ROTJ and TPM. Then, when I saw the first pic from TPM production in '97, I was kinda disappointed to see Neeson wearing Obi Wan robes and realizing that must be standard Jedi wearables.
Actually according some of the concept art floating around I believe the Jedi outfit was supposed to look like what Luke was wearing in Return of the Jedi.[/QUOTE]
That's what I always assumed during all the years between ROTJ and TPM. Then, when I saw the first pic from TPM production in '97, I was kinda disappointed to see Neeson wearing Obi Wan robes and realizing that must be standard Jedi wearables.
Is it blue, or black? I'm a bit colour blind so I occasionally have trouble with darker colours. But yeah, there's nothing Jedi like about his ceremony outfit aside from the fact that that the shirt appears to be a v-neck
I always took that outfit to be an Alliance pilot's garb (hence the yellow flight jacket) not anything to do with the Jedi. IIRC he isn't even wearing his lightsaber for that scene, just a holstered blaster.
Indeed, given that he appears to be wearing the same boots as Han and his trousers have the same dotted stripe down the side (though yellow on brown instead of red on navy blue) the implication may have been that Han lent him those clothes. I mean Luke left his homeworld with nothing but the clothes on his back, someone had to get him a change of clothes so he'd look presentable.
I always thought it was supposed to be the Star Wars equivalent to a fighter jacket.
Can I preface this Season 2 news snippet by guessing that we'll get our season two premiere on Sept 20th? The season opener, Siege of Lothal, was supposed to air in the "summer," I thought it was amusing that it was ultimately announced to air on the first day of summer. Fingers crossed for the same calendar punctuality in the "fall."
Last year's series premiere was Oct 3rd. It shouldn't be too long now until we hear our date! It's been torture to wait this long... not sure about you guys but I must have rewatched Siege about 6 or 7 times by now.
An interview with Dave Filoni at Daily Dot regarding the upcoming season 2 is a solid read. He offers a tease of what's to come in Season 2 - and it appears as though "the encounter" we are anticipating will be happening this season. I certainly hope we see a few encounters.
Eric
Give me a nice cryptic tease of a specific event you’re really looking forward to fans seeing in season 2.
Dave
Ummm. Boy. I know exactly what it is.
You know, it was interesting. I was, oddly, up at Skywalker Ranch [in Marin County, north of Lucasfilm's San Francisco offices], while Kathy [Kennedy] and J.J. [Abrams] were at Comic-Con doing their panel. I had the StarWars.com livestream updating on my computer while I was drawing and storyboarding probably one of the most critical things I've ever drawn and staged at my job at Lucasfilm. And I just found it to be a really interesting kind of crossover point, to see Kathy carrying forward this big movement of Star Wars now, and the fan excitement, and to be...literally I was drawing it in about the same place where I started Clone Wars in 2005.
[Lucasfilm] moved from the Ranch to Big Rock [a nearby studio] and then down to the Presidio [in San Francisco], but that day, because the Golden Gate Bridge was temporarily closed—they were doing some traffic changes—I went in and worked at the Ranch, which I hadn't done in a long time. And it just so happened that I was drawing this really, really, really, really, really, really, really important moment that I had turned over in my head many times, dealing with Ahsoka. And all this was happening on this same day.
I'll never forget that. That was really just a great day in my head for Star Wars. And I thought, "Wow, no one knows this is all happening." But I never would have thought, when I started in 2005, that I would be there 10 years later, not just working on what I was, in that moment, but also witnessing this forward future for Star Wars on a scale that I don't think any of us could have imagined in 2005.
It was kind of a nice point where all things came together for me. And that stuff that I staged, that particular scene, and everything surrounding it...I'm very excited for fans to see. That's going to be a big one. When it happens, you can ask me, you'll say, "Was this the thing?" and I'll say, "Yeah," and I can go into more detail about it.
Last year's series premiere was Oct 3rd. It shouldn't be too long now until we hear our date! It's been torture to wait this long... not sure about you guys but I must have rewatched Siege about 6 or 7 times by now.
An interview with Dave Filoni at Daily Dot regarding the upcoming season 2 is a solid read. He offers a tease of what's to come in Season 2 - and it appears as though "the encounter" we are anticipating will be happening this season. I certainly hope we see a few encounters.
Eric
Give me a nice cryptic tease of a specific event you’re really looking forward to fans seeing in season 2.
Dave
Ummm. Boy. I know exactly what it is.
You know, it was interesting. I was, oddly, up at Skywalker Ranch [in Marin County, north of Lucasfilm's San Francisco offices], while Kathy [Kennedy] and J.J. [Abrams] were at Comic-Con doing their panel. I had the StarWars.com livestream updating on my computer while I was drawing and storyboarding probably one of the most critical things I've ever drawn and staged at my job at Lucasfilm. And I just found it to be a really interesting kind of crossover point, to see Kathy carrying forward this big movement of Star Wars now, and the fan excitement, and to be...literally I was drawing it in about the same place where I started Clone Wars in 2005.
[Lucasfilm] moved from the Ranch to Big Rock [a nearby studio] and then down to the Presidio [in San Francisco], but that day, because the Golden Gate Bridge was temporarily closed—they were doing some traffic changes—I went in and worked at the Ranch, which I hadn't done in a long time. And it just so happened that I was drawing this really, really, really, really, really, really, really important moment that I had turned over in my head many times, dealing with Ahsoka. And all this was happening on this same day.
I'll never forget that. That was really just a great day in my head for Star Wars. And I thought, "Wow, no one knows this is all happening." But I never would have thought, when I started in 2005, that I would be there 10 years later, not just working on what I was, in that moment, but also witnessing this forward future for Star Wars on a scale that I don't think any of us could have imagined in 2005.
It was kind of a nice point where all things came together for me. And that stuff that I staged, that particular scene, and everything surrounding it...I'm very excited for fans to see. That's going to be a big one. When it happens, you can ask me, you'll say, "Was this the thing?" and I'll say, "Yeah," and I can go into more detail about it.
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The guy who did the interview is Eric Geller, formerly of TheForce.net.
