Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x09 - "Terrarium"

[Nerys Myk]

....wut?

These writers man, seriously.
At this point I am just waiting for the Borg to show up on SNW.

Kirk didn't go mano-a-mano with the Gorn on Cestus III. it was

KIRK: Our position.
DEPAUL: Two two seven nine pl, sir. Uncharted solar system at two four six six pm.

METRON [OC]: We have prepared a planet with a suitable atmosphere. You will be taken there, as will the Captain of the Gorn ship which you have been pursuing. There you will settle your dispute.

These fans, man. Seriously.

 

[Rahul]

....wut?

These writers man, seriously.
At this point I am just waiting for the Borg to show up on SNW.

But how are they going to pull it off this time?

There's no "First Contact" situation.

I'm still 100% convinced that in DIS season 2, after the original red angel faith plotline fell flat, when Kurtzman & co. pivoted to the "Control"-time-travel-storyline - they absolutely planned this to be the origin story for the Borg, with Leland being the first assimilated.
And that they abandoned that at the last minute, because all of a sudden the return of Patrick Stewart & the series PIC started to materialize, and part of the pitch was to use the Borg there. Resulting in that weird non-ending of all the Control plotlines & set-ups.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I'm still 100% convinced that in DIS season 2, after the original red angel faith plotline fell flat, when Kurtzman & co. pivoted to the "Control"-time-travel-storyline - they absolutely planned this to be the origin story for the Borg, with Leland being the first assimilated.
And that they abandoned that at the last minute, because all of a sudden the return of Patrick Stewart & the series PIC started to materialize, and part of the pitch was to use the Borg there. Resulting in that weird non-ending of all the Control plotlines & set-ups.

Interesting theory, but any BTS rumors or talks with the writing staff to confirm that hypothesis?

 

[Ssosmcin]

Star Trek: Enemy Mine (or "The Return of Starbuck"). Got it. Well, to be fair "Arena" itself was a ripoff that Gene Coon had to immediately scramble to Frederic Brown for permission to use before airing, so all's fair I guess. The Gorn have been mired in unoriginality since 1966. At least they made this one less bitey.

Im shocked with all the talk of Enemy Mine that more people are not mentioning the OG crashed pilot buddies.

See the post above

 

[cooleddie74]

Still, I wish they hadn't done that episode on ENT, and it was really ridiculous to have the line - "We've stopped an invasion for what, 200 years?"

"We've merely postponed the invasion until....what? The 24th century?"

Yeah, it's on the nose. Like a cockroach crawling across a white rug. But it works. And I can't say that about most of the VOY Borg episodes and the PIC ones about Hugh and the Artifact just felt....well, not great or groundbreaking.

 

[Ssosmcin]

And even if it had been - so what? The two visiting Organians did the same thing to Archer's crew in "Observer Effect(ENT)" and half of Trekdom didn't have a meltdown over it.

Well, yeah, fans rolled their collective eyes at a lot of the hoop jumping and hand waving the producers use so they could indulge in the use of characters introduced as first contacts in later shows.

This ain't new.

Apparently there are a lot of sneaky aliens having quiet, un-named and memory erasing contacts with humans prior to previous "first" contacts.

 

[cooleddie74]

Vulcan First Contact really happens now in 1957-58, not 105 or so years later. It's just that Mestral wore a hat most of the time.

 

[Ssosmcin]

I'm pretty sure phasers are always set to kill as a default. Otherwise, why is everyone always ordering their teams "set phasers to stun"? That'd be redundant if they're set to stun as a default.

Not necessarily. They could be in neutral or on safety.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

I'm still 100% convinced that in DIS season 2, after the original red angel faith plotline fell flat, when Kurtzman & co. pivoted to the "Control"-time-travel-storyline - they absolutely planned this to be the origin story for the Borg, with Leland being the first assimilated.
And that they abandoned that at the last minute, because all of a sudden the return of Patrick Stewart & the series PIC started to materialize, and part of the pitch was to use the Borg there. Resulting in that weird non-ending of all the Control plotlines & set-ups.

According to Jonathan Del Arco, Kurtzman et al were working on a Borg series centered on Hugh and Seven, but that changed when Patrick Stewart signed on. So I could see them wanting to do a Borg story on Disco, but as a means of launching a Borg series.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, yeah, fans rolled their collective eyes at a lot of the hoop jumping and hand waving the producers use so they could indulge in the use of characters introduced as first contacts in later shows.

This ain't new.

Apparently there are a lot of sneaky aliens having quiet, un-named and memory erasing contacts with humans prior to previous "first" contacts.

That's been a part of UFO lore for decades now. Star Trek is Johnny Come Lately on this idea.

Kirk didn't go mano-a-mano with the Gorn on Cestus III. it was


These fans, man. Seriously.

Rather cynical, amiright?

 

[cooleddie74]

Hell, many Trekkies forget that the Greek gods in the Trek universe were aliens who visited Earth and grew to enjoy the worship of the primitive humans of 5,000 years ago. Aliens have been a part of Earth history for millennia, we just don't officially acknowledge they're walking around on our own soil until April 2063.