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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x08 - "Four-And-A-Half Vulcans"
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Might want to update your database. It's been canon for decades.
Yet we see folks who are adults talking about their holo adventures as children.
The idea that holodeck was brand new was quickly abandoned. ( if it was ever a thing to begin with)
As with all things, tech advances. The holodecks of the 23rd Century are to the 24th Century holodecks like the the broadcast quality of the 20th Century is to the streaming quality of the 21st Century.
Since the Year 2006 Paramount has disagreed. The only reason it was ever decannonized was because at the start of TNG in 1987, Filmation still existed, and they let Paramount know that they would demand royalties for anything TAS related that showed up in a TNG script.
So instead of tempting a lawsuit (even though Paramount thought they would win such a lawsuit, they didn't want to waste the money or time if one occurred); Gene Roddenberry and Paramount decided to De-Canonize TAS and told the production team to make sure nothing from TAS worked its way into TNG.
Once filmation was completely bankrupt and out of the picture, all TAS rights return to Paramount, and it was at that point that TAS was Re-Canonized.
* interesting thing was, plenty of stuff from TAS made it into Berman era Trek, and no Filmation was never paid royalties nor did it initiate a lawsuit.
Fine, then. But the holodeck we see in SNW shouldn't be as advanced as the ones in TNG because, again, they act like it's something new and impressive.
I'd allow for some level of primitive holodeck technology (no smells, good, primitive sensations overall less "real") to account for even Berman era folks speaking of earlier holodeck technology but when we're shown it in S1-2 of TNG everyone acts like what we're shown is remarkable and brand new.
I'd allow for some level of primitive holodeck technology (no smells, good, primitive sensations overall less "real") to account for even Berman era folks speaking of earlier holodeck technology but when we're shown it in S1-2 of TNG everyone acts like what we're shown is remarkable and brand new.
It clearly wasn't. As evidenced in "The Space Adventure Hour,"
TAS is canon.
Janeway talked about knowing Holo stories from her childhood when it came to some holodeck stories. So there is evidence that the Galaxy class is far more detailed than before.
The holodeck we saw on TAS was not as advanced as the one we saw on TNG, as the animated holodeck could only replicate landscapes. The only reason the Strange New Worlds holodec was able to create people was because it was using transporter patterns of real people. It couldn't just create people out of the ether.
I'm just going to breathe and shut-up since I'm being ganged up on here and treated like I'm an idiot.
You're not being treated like an idiot, you're just being told what the actual facts are regarding some of your assumptions such as the Canon status of TAS.
Kirk: Leave any bigotry in your quarters. There's no room for it on the Bridge Mr. Styles.
Styles: Even aside from all the tasteless speciest jokes you let Dr. McCoy make, did not former security chief La'an Noonien Singh immediately try to take over the ship, start a war, and personally punch you out soon after she was turned into a Vulcan?
Styles: Even aside from all the tasteless speciest jokes you let Dr. McCoy make, did not former security chief La'an Noonien Singh immediately try to take over the ship, start a war, and personally punch you out soon after she was turned into a Vulcan?
They pigeon holed it in like spocks sister who basically mentored him, the spock chapel and spock la'an romances, the larger Enterprise etc. It goes on and on.
The TOS enterprise doesn't have a canon size, so...
All the numerous differences & conflicts with TOS/TAS continuity would be easily explained if you treat SNW as an alternate Time-Line from TOS/TAS.
Then you can enjoy each one for what it is, w/o worrying about conflicts in continuity.
Matt Jefferies who designed the TOS Enterprise has a Canon Size, and most old school fans recognize his dimensions.
Not any more.
Good Luck in convincing all the other Trek Nerds to accept the new Size figures.
Have fun with that.
Yeah no.Not as speculative as you would think considering there are plenty of "Official Reference Source Material" that states the TOS Connies dimensions.
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