Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x05 - "Through the Lens of Time"
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Given he dug into an alien backpack, pulled out a glowing object of unknown origin, and then held it up to his face. I think we can all agree that he was very much not the brightest bulb in the house.
Only way it could have been worse is if the words "Pick Me Up" were printed on the side.
Yeah tricorder first. Touch later. This is Star Trek, not Prometheus.
*Blinks in "The Naked Time"*
Itchy noses are the number one causes of death in Starfleet.
God, the Promethius crew was so dumb.
They got their scientific qualifications from Trump University. Woke modules like DEI, Health & Safety, Scientific Method, and liability insurance were abolished in the purge of 2028.
As well as circuit breakers resulting in panels exploding on board starships.
Utopia my ass.
Circuit breakers were going to be fitted on Thursday but it was either capacity for health and safety or enough memory for holodeck porn. The ship has voted unanimously. Ditch the circuit breakers.
Holoporn! "Computer, play file 'Tinto Brass Caligula Ship Orgy 1979'."
"Enter when ready".
(looks thru arch, smiles) "God bless you, Montgomery Scott. It gets lonely out in space."
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What makes you think circuit breakers would actually stop panels from exploding given that's caused by high energy feedback from multiple different types of sci-fi particles?
My absurd belief that a supposed utopia would value life enough to try and protect it's crew.
The circuits failures cause the rocks to fall
You're working off a faulty assumption there.
Because for all we know, the current safety status of these things is as safe as they can get within the limits of current technology.
Hey now, Cordry Rocks serve an essential function on Starships.
Indeed.
I liked this episode. It had some flaws but it got us back to the best parts of SNW which is exploring, science and action rolled together.
I was surprised that they didn't get anything more out of the pairings. They set it up and skipped past it. La'an is obviously very uncomfortable with Christine and pretty outright aggressive. It seemed like a bit of missed opportunity.
I agree with you about all the other relationships and randoms though. Uhuru and Ortegas's brother would be best left out. The brother hasn't added much for me. I would appreciate the time being dedicated to Ortegas
I liked the Batel and Gambel fight scene. Batel looked non-human with her movements so she sold that. Pelia was funny and somehow it's not a surprise that she loves the camera.
It's not clear to me how the creature knew all the information that the crew didn't tell Gamble. Did I miss that?
The Spock and La'an relationship is feeling like a mess for me. They seem like friends with benefits which is so not Spock. Didn't they establish in Enterprise that Vulcan's are inherently monogamous and stick with a partner largely for life due to the bond? I've never really liked La'an but her added aggression towards everyone (especially Christine) is not helping. I didn't like that 'don't be that woman' exchange. She asked how it was going so I'm not ever sure what La'an was getting at. La'an is too much of a classic security officer for me. Pulling out a phaser at a possibly sentient being was so Worf in the 80s.
Nicely put. 2) I didn't notice but I'd love to know more about what you saw? I liked the moment where Spock asked for her trust scientifically and she backed him over Kobry. You're not that clever Korby! I did feel bad for Spock when he said that he knew he'd lost her confidence on many things. He didn't do anything wrong and I really don't think he ever lost her confidence. I agree that it adds well to TOS. Immortality is clearly important to Korby so this was picked up nicely. Christine is a nice voice of wisdom to Korby but as very successful scientist in a relatively dangerous field I would have thought he had a very strong instinct for risk. I was confused that he was going to blast the door. That's a pretty 101 of what not to do on a dig in a very valuable, ancient site.So I rewatched this one tonight, and I'm not going to reiterate everything everyone has said about it already. On first watch, I did like this episode bc of it's horror elements as well as the advancing character arcs, and after rewatching and before grading it, I have a few points to make:
1) So once Gamble was attacked, Christine and La'an took him outside to be beamed up and then came back. The rest of the landing party was inside. So the only reason N'Jal was killed was because he tried to exit by himself? Okay. Got it. I'd actually missed that during my first bleary-eyed watch early Thursday morning. I kept thinking "how'd they get him out?!"
2) I liked that little look Christine gave La'an and then Spock when they were all talking about the "preservers" theory and La'an said "fascinating!" See, I like those little moments and... er, glancesAnd aww now when I see Gamble in all his fresh-faced innocence breathe "ancient astronauts!!!" my heart weeps a bit. About that, I really don't think we've seen the last of this character. Whether or not they follow up on the last scene, he's too good to let go. But what do I know? I'm just an OG Trekkie who's used to too many great guest characters meeting their deaths never to be heard from again.
3) So when N'Jal speaks, he/she speaks in his language and Uhura translates, but when the landing party speak, he/she is able to understand them? I don't see Uhura translating to him. So I take it he either knows Standard, or the UT is translating one way. Okay... just checking here. I am not quite up on how the UT is supposed to work at this point in the Prime Timeline.
4) Gamble's injury/death happened right around 20mins in...
5) When I was first watching it, I remember thinking that when Dr. M'Benga was examining Gamble's fingers and they looked kinda dark blue/gray/black... that that's not a good thing that his extremities seem to have turned darker. I now realize that meant he had already died by that point. *shivers* the horror/horrific moments on this show were really, SNEAKILY well done.
6) Spock has read Alice in Wonderland... I now want to rewatch Shore Leave LOL.
7) How did an unbroken sentient sphere get into engineering? Who brought it aboard? I must have missed that part.
8) I understand a lot of folks did like the previous episode. I did not. THIS episode is precisely the reason why I did not like that one. To a writer like me, little things can mean a lot. This episode adds to the lore of TOS. It gets Spock back on his perceptive yet logical feet and able to establish a solid, tensile working bond with Christine; it shows why without Christine Chapel's ability to restrain Dr. Korby's innate curiosity for the unknown, he made such a life-changing error. And we now realize that Dr. M'Benga may have had an increasingly difficult emotional journey as the CMO aboard the Enterprise... something that may have led him on to a different path altogether. ALL that is meat & potatoes to an OG Trekkie like me, and though I am still unsure as to whether SNW is Prime Timeline, as the series progresses, I am sure that this particular episode may well be considered part of the stream that seats SNW firmly inside the Prime Timeline.
8) As an OG Phile (original X-Files fan), I always loved the MOTWs (Monster-of-the-week) episodes more and gave them a lot of rewatches over the years. My Trek journey has been very different, but when Trek makes a true horror (and at times horrific) episode, I am there every step of the way.
Grade: 10
I was surprised that they didn't get anything more out of the pairings. They set it up and skipped past it. La'an is obviously very uncomfortable with Christine and pretty outright aggressive. It seemed like a bit of missed opportunity.
This made no sense. Just report in! It would take two seconds. At the very least you would want everyone on the ship to know that there's a risk so if you don't come back then they coming look promptly.
Aw Chapel's my favourite. I think she shines in every scene almost no matter who she's with. Her love for discovery and science and her joy at doing it captures me. It's very engaging. I appreciate your frustration with the one sided way she's been shown though. She's a great character and short, subtle relationships are more than enough. The heavy focus in Ep2 was too much. It also means that she's always in an awkward moment with someone. The fun, not awkward moments between her and Spock in S1 were the best.
I agree with you about all the other relationships and randoms though. Uhuru and Ortegas's brother would be best left out. The brother hasn't added much for me. I would appreciate the time being dedicated to Ortegas
I had no idea that Denise Crosby was Bring Croby's granddaughter. That's so cool. Ethan Peck is also Gregory Peck's grandson so they had famous family members working in Hollywood in a similar(ish) time.
That's perfect! He would need to be wearing a red shirt though.
I liked the Batel and Gambel fight scene. Batel looked non-human with her movements so she sold that. Pelia was funny and somehow it's not a surprise that she loves the camera.
It's not clear to me how the creature knew all the information that the crew didn't tell Gamble. Did I miss that?
The Spock and La'an relationship is feeling like a mess for me. They seem like friends with benefits which is so not Spock. Didn't they establish in Enterprise that Vulcan's are inherently monogamous and stick with a partner largely for life due to the bond? I've never really liked La'an but her added aggression towards everyone (especially Christine) is not helping. I didn't like that 'don't be that woman' exchange. She asked how it was going so I'm not ever sure what La'an was getting at. La'an is too much of a classic security officer for me. Pulling out a phaser at a possibly sentient being was so Worf in the 80s.
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